Probably some truth to that.

Although, there's historically some benefits to being in IT, flexibility being 
a primary one.

This removes a lot of that and turns things into 100% allocation, which i 
understand for business purposes, but i fear will increase turnover to the 
point that nothing gets done to brain drain.


It could really go either way.   We have an amazing IT shop, and i'd hate to 
see a quest for 100% productivity jeopardize that.


That said, the bulk of our problems with projects have been at the 
organizational level.  ie, every department thought they could buy whatever 
they wanted and IT would just make it happen...tomorrow   (we're healthcare, 
2800ish users)  Things fell through the cracks.  Whoever screamed the loudest 
got priority.   So definitely a need for project management, i'm just not sure 
i see the benefits of their methodology just yet.



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From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Paul Stewart <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 10:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Tools


Every environment is different so wouldn’t be fair for me to say….  Sometimes 
detailed time tracking can really make sense (such as in a development 
environment) but it’s often “oversold” as a solution to a problem that is not 
understood…



Just my opinion….:)



From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tyler Treat
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 10:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Tools



yeah that's it.   painful to use, plus they're trying to convince everyone that 
time tracking is the way to go.





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From: Af <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Paul 
Stewart <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 9:23 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Tools



Ooh… Eclipse PPM probably … they are based not too far away from me in Toronto..



Only seen a demo of their stuff – never used it….



From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tyler Treat
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 10:05 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Tools



Our PM team is trying to cram something called Eclipse down everyone's throats.



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From: Af <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Josh 
Baird <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 9:03 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Project Management Tools



I use JIRA (and Confluence) extensively with a team that tracks infrastructure 
related issues, but I'm not really sure I call it a 'project management' tool. 
It's probably more focused on software development, but it's very flexible and 
we are happy with it.  It's simple and the Atlassian Marketplace has a ton of 
useful plugins that can make it even better.  It's also very cheap for small 
teams (like $10 for 10 users).  I can't really say enough good things about the 
entire Atlassian product line.



Trello and Basecamp are good options in my opinion for project management.



Josh



On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Mike Hammett 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

and I don't mean the people.

What are you guys using for project management tools? I've had JIRA recommended 
to me by a few people, but it seems focused on software development. One of my 
partners asked us to check out Producteev and Planbox. Neither Planbox nor 
Producteev has responded to any of my inquiries.

Producteev doesn't support templates (seems like a must-have) and hasn't had 
any blog or Twitter posts in nine months. Seems like a dead product. Otherwise, 
it seems to support rather simple projects just fine.

Planbox does support templates, though the functionality seems broken. They 
seem to be active (other than a lack of response to direct inquiries), but also 
seems to require more complex projects with their four tiered approach.

There are more project management platforms than wifi vendors, so I was hoping 
for some qualified leads.


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


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