I wonder about that.  We’re starting to get more residential takers on leasing 
a Mikrotik.  We ship them with UPNP disabled and since they are remotely 
managed can easily enable it upon request.  Have not had to turn a single one 
on yet.  Maybe the intersection of people with Xboxes and people who lease 
routers is the null set?  Hard to believe.


From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 5:00 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras

but... anything that makes me not have to deal with people whining about their 
xbox NAT issues can't be all bad.


On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

  UPNP = evil

  Here, cheap piece of crap from China, do whatever you want with my firewall, 
and no need to tell me.


  From: mailto:[email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:17 AM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras

  It's definitely a NAT issue. Does your router support UPNP? Did you enable it 
in Settings->Network Settings->Advanced Settings?

  On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

    I could post a pic if I could get into the system.  (Not on site most of 
the time).

    From: mailto:[email protected] 
    Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:18 AM
    To: [email protected] 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras

    Can you post a pic of the camera during the day and of it washed out at 
night? We've had to tweek the video settings 
    on some of the cameras.

    If you have an Android phone/tablet, you can download their free app to 
view your cameras remotely. We have Apple and use the IP Cam Viewer app which 
is nice.

    I'll look into the remote DVR issue for you.

    On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

      OK, bought a couple of the more expensive grandstream cameras and their 
DVR device.
      The cameras are really washed out by our security lights at night.  I got 
the expensive night IR model hoping to capture traffic at night.  But the 
ambient light is too much for the B&W IR mode and not enough for regular color 
daylight mode.

      The thing that really bugs me is our inability to see the video remotely. 
 If on site it works OK but if I log into the DVR it allows access but the 
screen is just black.  No camera video is visible.  Grandstream has not been 
helpful.

      So, shall I try another brand of camera?  Have not tried any of the UBNT 
stuff.  I have a cheap system from Harbor Freight that while is extremely low 
res and has noise on some of the channels actually works well enough for many 
things.  (If nothing more than scaring away bad guys by the presence of the 
cameras.)


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