I forget what it's called, but there's a component of IPv6 where a computer 
*can* use a new IP address for each request to avoid tracking. Disposable IPs, 
though obviously the service provider knows the range they've allocated for 
legal purposes. 




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----- Original Message -----

From: "Paul Stewart" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 9:52:23 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases 

I'm not sure your argument is really valid.. NAT is "security through 
obscurity" which translates to "zero additional security" also known as "false 
security" 

IPv6 behind a stateful firewall is just as secure - some folks would argue it's 
more secure but that argument would take several paragraphs to get into ;) 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop 
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 10:01 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases 

Yeah, but the great thing about NAT is that my network isn't public. 

That is my primary argument with IPv6. 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> 
To: <[email protected]> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 8:28 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases 


> 
> You could use a single IPv6 to say, Mars. 
> 
> And everyone on Mars could have their own static IP that uses the first 64 
> to get to Mars and the second 64 to get to all the subscribers. Assuming 
> routers exist that would do this. 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Matt 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 7:22 AM 
> To: [email protected] 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private ipv4 sale / leases 
> 
>> Just saying that NAT is not needed. Every single IP gives you so much 
>> address space that you will never be able to use it. 
>> 
>> Essentially a number of globally routable set of static IPs come with 
>> every IP such that one single IP could probably run the whole planet 
>> right now. 
> 
> You mean every /64 which is minimum customer assignment in most 
> respects does. A single IPv6 IP is still just a single IP. 
> 



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