Saw first field around here tasseling(no not sweet corn), crazy for this
area and 4th of July...


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
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Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

>   This isn’t corn blocking LOS, it is multipath due to reflections.  We
> get peaks and valleys >20dB variation and unfortunately they move as the
> crops grow.  I used to think going higher was the answer, our typical
> install height is 15 feet AGL, but even at 25+ feet we see this.  In many
> cases we get better results going lower, if we can get below the last
> null.  At the point marked “A” on the graph we lowered the dish at the
> customer end, but there was another null below it and as the corn grew the
> null moved up.
>
> Best situation is a hill, ridge, or line of trees in the distance so there
> is no reflected path.
>
> We’ve had a lot of rain this June so there’s a lot of moisture in the
> crops.  Usually things get a little better when the soybeans turn brown or
> the corn tassels out and starts to dry up.
>
>  *From:* Work <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 04, 2015 3:15 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] see crops grow on signal graph
>
>  If install by farm scope 9ft or higher if it only works lower then that
> don't install it
>
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>  On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  I would almost say the #1 problem we face is reflections off cropland,
>> primarily on 5 GHz customer links. One set of problems occur at sundown
>> with no wind. Another occurs as the crops grow. And with crop rotation,
>> we
>> might have problems at a customer location where we had none the year
>> before.
>>
>> Here is an example where you can literally watch the crops grow day by
>> day
>> on the signal graph. Notice the nice roller coaster shaped graph.
>>
>> There are a couple other things going on at this location. At point A we
>> moved the customer's antenna 1-2 feet lower, and changed the mount to a
>> pipe
>> with one of the KPP brackets that lets us slide it up and down on the
>> pipe.
>> Less than a month later, we're in trouble again. At point B a storm
>> damaged
>> the AP omni and the top was open to rain and hornets, it was replaced a
>> couple days later.
>>
>> Strange I don't hear much discussion about this problem, we probably have
>> it
>> at 5% of our customers. Maybe most of you don't have flat land and row
>> crops.
>> <crops_growing.png>
>> <crops_growing.png>
>
>
>

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