+1
they will try so hard just not to keep it going. Once they go over the
tipping point of going out to peoples homes to hook up grandmas laptop
or keep their ipad connected.
On 7/7/2015 7:03 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
100% agree with Brian. This seems to be the path for about 99% of the
Muni WISPS out there. Keep your eye on it, get to the know the staff.
When the pain seems to get to much for them to bear offer to step in.
The only thing you will have to deal with is the customers who think
you should charge, or give for free, with the same structure a tax
funded entity couldn't make work. That won't matter since those
socialists can't understand logic there is no use explaining it to them.
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Brian Webster
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
My suggestion would be to just wait it out. Let them build it and
lose money. Eventually they will realize that they have no idea
how to be an ISP, the customers will not deal with slow government
response times to complaints, and the government will hate dealing
with title II issues and open internet regulations. They will
throw their hands up and offer it via bid or something else to a
private company to manage/own/run. You might be able to pick it up
for far less than it would have cost you to build. I certainly
would not try to overbuild them before they get going. The average
consumer has already heard about their promised prices, you will
be fighting that even though they have not even started building yet.
Do a search for the UC2B project in Illinois, it was a
municipal/university system built with stimulus funds. They did
what they needed to meet grant obligations, then they all argued
among the partners about who and how they would run things and
failed at that. They finally let a private company take over and
expand the system.
Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
www.Broadband-Mapping.com <http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com>
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Carl Peterson
*Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2015 8:45 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?
Assuming you didn't have to recoup build costs, I don't see how it
would be hard to run the network at $50 per sub. Bandwidth is
dirt cheep at scale and there isn't much to go wrong with a fiber
plant.
On Jul 6, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Christopher Gray
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
About $40M is grant funding from the state for "last mile"
services that is only available to municipalities. The balance
of the funding is coming from town borrowing. My town will
receive about $1.2M from the grant and will vote in September
whether to authorize $2.3M of borrowing that would be paid
with property tax.
I'm 95% sure this will go through, and the network would be
lit in about 3 years, but I can't get their numbers to work
out. I cannot see how they can actually provide service and
maintain their network and offer a base service of only $50 /
month. If that jumps to $100, I could see remaining
competitive, though.
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Where is the funding coming from?
I would not be comfortable building in an area where I am sure
to get over built.
*From:*Christopher Gray <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Monday, July 06, 2015 11:56 AM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*[AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?
Several of the rural towns in my planned coverage area are
looking into municipal fiber (average density about 10
premises per fiber mile, all above ground). They're claiming
$50 for 25 Mbps service, $79 for 100 Mbps, and $109 for 1
Gbps. They already have funding authorized in about half of
the towns they are targeting... but they'd be about 3 years
from providing any service.
Is it reasonable or possible to compete with such a thing?
Should I ignore any area that plans to fund this, or might it
be worth getting a foothold before their system is lit?
Thanks - Chris
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