Trans-pacific and Trans-atlantic are more expensive to upgrade then “mainland” paths… NTT is deploying a lot of 100G on Juniper MX2020 platform right now… not sure how often they update their network map…
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 9:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT If you wanna see a busy setup, look at NTT's network map. They show each circuit on the map, not just generic lines. There are a few destinations, but there are 84x 10 gigabit circuits between Japan and the US. I think that's the trans-pacific crown. Some are 10GigE, some are OC-192. I know they terminate to different markets, but even at three major west coast markets, that's almost 30x 10G circuits per market. There's some LAG going on there, even with different A and Z locations and diverse routers within a market. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com _____ From: "Faisal Imtiaz" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 8:09:18 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT FYI, based on our experience.... at 100G Levels most IP Transit providers are @ very similar Monthly MRC. And yes, due to limitations of 100g ports on a line card and expensive optics, in many cases 10g LAG Groups are less expensive to implement. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> _____ From: "Paul Stewart" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 5:04:19 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT True… and it’s a one time cost … Obviously depends on the provider for that monthly pricing – that’s pretty low MRC except for HE crap…. When the market is used to minimal setup fees for ports though, the 100G stuff still stands out… the linecard(s) are one thing to recover but the price of the optics is still stupidly expensive too .. The biggest attraction for me has been in “higher traffic” networks when you run into limitations on how many members can be in a LAG … so you go from 10G LAG’s to 100G LAG’s ;) From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 3:58 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT Hmmmm, considering a full 100g port of service would be priced at $35,000 to $45,000 / Month, it needs a $150,000 to $500,000 Router to handle, a one time charge of $30,000 to $100,000 is negotiable and rather an irrelevant figure in that picture :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] _____ From: "Paul Stewart" < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> To: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 2:09:24 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT Well there is no question that 10G ports and LAG’s of 10G are more popular but the number of 100G ports being sold for IP Transit is definitely picking up quite noticeably :) The biggest challenge that I have run across is pure economics – the cost of the ports makes it hard for them to sell them to customers at much discount. The quotes on 100G transit that I have seen typically have a $60k-$100k per port setup fee to try and recover a portion of costs up front. The attraction is higher in markets where x-connect monthly fees are quite high. From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 8:13 AM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT <http://www.telecomramblings.com/2015/07/thursday-bytes-gtt-telepacific-vxchnge-netrality-faction/> http://www.telecomramblings.com/2015/07/thursday-bytes-gtt-telepacific-vxchnge-netrality-faction/ 100G ports to customers still isn't common. It happens, but isn't common. It's mostly for internal connections. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com> http://www.ics-il.com _____ From: "Paul Stewart" < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> To: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 5:26:55 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT Actually to be specific, GTT is a “Tier1” provider since they acquired TiNet. So usually a “blend of several networks” refers to a Tier2 provider .. GTT has *many* direct peers of significant size :) Long time customer of the various companies that came part of the GTT “umbrella” – overall pretty happy although I’ve heard second hand about lots of “reorganization” problems .. haven’t seen much of it first hand though. 100 Gig very common now in most areas.. maybe there were the first to deploy in Saudi or something… From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson - MTIN Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 9:16 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Anyone heard of GTT We use them in Chicago. They provide a BGP blend of several networks. They are an international provider. One of their direct peers is China Telecom. I saw a press release they are doing 100 Gig in Saudi Arabia. If you want to know about our experiences with them (pretty good for the most part) hit me offlist. Justin --- Justin Wilson <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://www.mtin.net <http://t.signauxdeux.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0SmZ58dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJW7sM9dn7dK_MMdBzM2-04?si=5679648505069568&pi=5135D234-DD8D-4602-8F2A-9491AF24D5F7&t=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Emtin%2Enet> Managed Services – xISP Solutions – Data Centers http://www.thebrotherswisp.com <http://t.signauxdeux.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0SmZ58dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJW7sM9dn7dK_MMdBzM2-04?si=5679648505069568&pi=5135D234-DD8D-4602-8F2A-9491AF24D5F7&t=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ethebrotherswisp%2Ecom> Podcast about xISP topics http://www.midwest-ix.com <http://t.signauxdeux.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0SmZ58dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJW7sM9dn7dK_MMdBzM2-04?si=5679648505069568&pi=5135D234-DD8D-4602-8F2A-9491AF24D5F7&t=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Emidwest%2Dix%2Ecom> Peering – Transit – Internet Exchange On Jul 8, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Paul Stewart <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: As in GTT – IP Transit provider? 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