They have OK radios. If you tore them apart you would see the differences.
If you put them through some extreme audio testing you would see the
difference. If you had to try to get true discriminator audio out of those
radios you would see the difference.

For average commercial uses they suffice. Extreme radios for extreme
circumstances. Motorola's trouble is most people don't face those
situations or want to pay for a radio that can handle them.

But, nobody cares. I would be shocked if Motorola didn't sell to a prime
defense contractor within twelve months.

On Sat, Jul 18, 2015, 11:01 AM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]>
wrote:

> agreed , but today Kenwood and Icom have some great radios but in Mexico
> they are much more brand conscious ....They prefer quality products that
> last longer as repair centers are harder to find.  When I was sales manager
> at Joske's our store sold Sony Trinitron TV's 3 to 1 compared to all the
> larger stores in Dallas, Houston,San Antonio and Austin.   Epcom here in El
> Paso was a large Motorola dealer and now one of Kenwoods biggest
> distributors in the world.   Times, they are a changin'
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Lewis Bergman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Not saying they don't hold value. They are still the best on the market.
>> But their quality and technology used to be head and shoulders above
>> everyone else. Now the differences are less apparent.
>>
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2015, 10:34 AM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
> their two way radio systems hold value even in used market,   The Condor
>>> guys I work with buy tons of used Moto radios gear and service it then
>>> resell into Mexico for trucking and security companies.  The iDen stuff is
>>> very popular as well with some ruggedized phones.   I am using cp3000 on
>>> this project to communicate with the indoor crews.   clean analog
>>> performance.
>>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>>
>> 915-861-1390
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Lewis Bergman <[email protected]
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> The museum is still in Schaumburg where it had always been. I'll tell
>>>> you the truth, Motorola quality has not been the same since they stopped
>>>> manufacturing their own components. That has been a while. The last few
>>>> years they have been All about buying companies and slapping the batwing on
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2015, 10:20 AM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>   In my mind, Mot died several years ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Back in the day, when engineers used data manuals for semiconductors,
>>>>> two or three whole shelves on my book case in my office were Motorola
>>>>> Blue.(There were some Mot browns too).  Then there was the TI yellow,
>>>>> National Semiconductor was a darker blue, Maxim was white I think,  and of
>>>>> course about 4 shelves of  the Thomas Register.  Lots of other smaller
>>>>> companies.  Three or four full book cases full of data manuals.
>>>>>
>>>>> But it was those Mot RF data manuals that were my favorites...
>>>>>
>>>>> So where did the museum end up?
>>>>>
>>>>>  *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 17, 2015 11:58 PM
>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Chicago says good bye to Motorola
>>>>>
>>>> No mention of Cambium.  Just talking batwings here.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.chicagobusiness.com/section/goodbye-moto
>>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>

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