It's one of the perks of the job, free room and board for 3 to 16 years On Aug 6, 2015 8:43 PM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Not enough of them, it seems. ;-) > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Thursday, August 6, 2015 8:41:36 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Legalzoom > > Don’t they promote the secretaries of state and governors to the “big > house” in your state? > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:23 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Legalzoom > > Ours is through the Secretary of State. I think every state department > here has additional costs added on for the Illinois Governor Retirement > Commissary and Soap Fund. > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Just do a quick google of your state’s corporation regulatory agency. >> For example if you google DBA in Utah I am pretty sure it will take you >> right to the form where you do it yourself. >> >> I would always run stuff through an LLC or S corp. Provides some >> protection against lawsuits and bankruptcy types of things. Also makes it >> much easier to do the bookkeeping to get the maximum tax advantage of >> expenses. >> >> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 11:10 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Legalzoom >> >> My main purpose is so I can get a bank account in that name and advertise >> legally with that name, right now I send bills to people with my name. Ive >> always just put the income on my personal tax returns, but its to a point, >> even if I still continue to do that in the future, I would like to keep the >> money in a separate account from my mortgage payment and my nappy headed >> womans debit card. This isnt retirement money type revenue but my household >> expenditures need to not be eating into that. >> I have a couple of cash money guys that occasionally do stuff. >> >> So the gist is, LegalZoom bad? and I should probably do something else >> anyway? >> >> When I used to sell dope, I never had any of these issues, no taxes, no >> need for a corporation, didnt need to worry about complaints to the BBB, >> OSHA never checked to make sure I was not exposing my guys to any PBA in >> the baggies. ....that was a simpler time >> >> >> On the tax ID note >> I had a tax ID a long time ago, this was when tiger direct gave business >> discounts, so I needed to provide that. I never had any debt to the state >> but they did hound me for that quarterly, for the zero dollars I owed them, >> I got percentage based penalties a couple of times of zero dollars. I >> finally called and talked to a nice lady about it, she took care of it but >> she told my I actually needed to cut a zero dollar check in the future. I >> cancelled my tax ID. >> >> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> i am not a lawyer but... >>> >>> i'd recommend an LLC instead of a sole proprietorship. the LLC can >>> protect your personal assets from someone who goes after the business. >>> >>> but again i am not a lawyer ;-) >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:12 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> for a small, on the side business sole proprietorship would seem >>>> sufficient. >>>> >>>> Whats this you say about sales tax, a sole proprietor cant take in >>>> sales tax? >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> This stuff is not rocket science. It might be difficult for a lawyer, >>>>> but it's a fairly rote process. I've done it a couple of times, and yes, >>>>> you need to issue stock (if a corp), publish minutes, and a couple of >>>>> other >>>>> things. In CA, the SOS office has a little checklist of what you need. It >>>>> takes maybe an hour or two to pull it all together. >>>>> >>>>> bp >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 8/6/2015 6:45 AM, Hass, Douglas A. wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -1000 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you just need to file corporate formation papers and nothing else, >>>>> you can probably do it by downloading the free forms your state provides. >>>>> Registering a DBA name is easy, too. Usually just a form that doesn’t >>>>> take >>>>> a degree to figure out how to complete. Having an attorney is helpful, >>>>> but >>>>> by no means necessary. *On the other hand, LegalZoom is a complete >>>>> waste of money.* You don’t need to pay LegalZoom unless you like >>>>> snazzy web interfaces/hate PDFs so much that you are willing to pay money >>>>> to use/avoid one. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> HOWEVER FILING THE FORMS ISN’T ALL YOU NEED TO DO! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If all you do is pay the filing fees and file the forms, you haven’t >>>>> done what you need to create a corporation that protects you and your >>>>> personal assets (or other corporate assets), and you may not have done >>>>> enough to actually transact business in the state or location where you >>>>> are >>>>> located. You have to follow a number of other corporate formalities, too >>>>> (corporate books, minutes, resolutions, state registrations/licenses, >>>>> local >>>>> registrations/licenses, etc.) or you will have just wasted your time and >>>>> money. As Ken pointed out, most states have annual filing requirements, >>>>> too. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Retaining a lawyer that specializes in this area, as well as a good >>>>> small business accountant, is a must. Otherwise, you’re risking your >>>>> business right from the start. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Doug >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>>>> Behalf Of *Bill Prince >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 8:25 AM >>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Legalzoom >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> +1. >>>>> >>>>> You can do an LLC or an S corp for just the filing fee ($25 in CA). >>>>> The process is fairly simple; even I can do it. >>>>> >>>>> Doing a DBA is also pretty simple, and only costs $10 or $20 to >>>>> publish. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> bp >>>>> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 8/6/2015 6:15 AM, Joshaven Mailing Lists wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You probably don’t need a lawyer to file the LLC. I’ve seen companies >>>>> that use one where the lawyer is payed to fill out a form that is easier >>>>> to >>>>> fill out then a 1099ez. Look into getting a LLC form form the state >>>>> first… >>>>> you probably want a lawyer to draw up your articles of organization >>>>> though. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> >>>>> Joshaven Potter >>>>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, UACA >>>>> Google Hangouts: [email protected] >>>>> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370 >>>>> >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 9:10 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Find a local lawyer who specializes in small business, you can set up >>>>> an LLC or S Corp and do the annual filings with the state for a couple >>>>> hundred dollars a year and you will have someone to consult when related >>>>> stuff comes up. I use these guys (gals, actually), I’m sure there is >>>>> something similar near you. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.cartertani.com/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 05, 2015 11:10 PM >>>>> >>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Legalzoom >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Is this outfit worth dealing with for stuff like a dba for a small >>>>> business that will probably generate 22 bucks and a bad taste in the >>>>> mouth. >>>>> I assume everybody here did this among other things once upon a >>>>> lonesome. It's like 99 to 150 bucks plus the filing fees. >>>>> Is a dba something you can muck up on your own? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Douglas A. 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