You have to get in the process where the developer comes to you to get you to 
sign the vellum plat map.  That is normally prior to official subdivision 
approval by the city or county.

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:03 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ROW conflict

How do you gain access to open trenches? In our area there are tens of new 
housing developments that I would love to start laying fiber in open trenches 
at a much lower price compared to boring, etc.?

On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Brett A Mansfield 
<[email protected]> wrote:

  I'd like to do the same, sell and then do fiber. Anyone wanna buy a small 
wisp? Haha. 

  Seriously though, if anyone is interested in buying me out, if seriously 
consider it. I enjoy this a lot, but I'm running very short on time to keep it 
up. I'm very happy just keeping it and doing what I can, but I'm at a 
crossroads -- sell or expand. 

  Thank you, 
  Brett A Mansfield
  Silver Lake Internet, LLC

  On Aug 14, 2015, at 10:46 PM, Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]> wrote:


    Ah, I’ve talked to Brett already.



    A lawyer is the best way to go.



    Wisp moving to fiber is a tall challenge that I honestly couldn’t achieve.



    Instead I rolled the sale of the WISP to a fiber company and it cost 
hundreds of thousands of dollars.



    Good luck Brett and others!



    I’m sure it could be boot strapped for less, maybe doing greenfield open 
trench access to start.

    But it’s still a lot of outlay for a trickle incoming.



    I can’t think of how anyone can do what we do for cheaper than we do it, 
and it’s still a little unnerving J







    From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected]
    Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 3:38 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ROW conflict



    Talk to Sterling.  



    From: Brett A Mansfield 

    Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:49 PM

    To: [email protected] 

    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ROW conflict



    No, not a CLEC. The other provider is an ILEC though. 



    My company is just a WISP that is wanting to move to fiber.

    Thank you, 

    Brett A Mansfield

    Silver Lake Internet, LLC


    On Aug 14, 2015, at 12:44 PM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> wrote:

      Are you a CLEC?  That changes things, because if they have allowed 
someone in the ROW already, I think they have to allow you too.  There was some 
rule passed, maybe in the Telecom Act, that states that cities cannot 
discriminate, and must allow all providers.  IANAL... 



      I am currently in a battle with my city because they want to charge me a 
franchise tax...that they don't charge to AT&T, Windstream, or Sprint.



      Regards,
      Chuck



      On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Brett A Mansfield 
<[email protected]> wrote:

        Me and another company have both requested access to the city ROW to 
run FTTx on the same day in the same city, and the response from the city was 
that they are trying to decide if they want to allow access to one or both of 
us or if they feel their current formally city funded company is enough.

        My question to the group is, is it even up to them or is it up to the 
residents? And if I cannot get into the ROW, what alternatives do I have?

        Thank you,
        Brett A Mansfield
        Silver Lake Internet, LLC



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