Hmmmmm, the only routers I have seen that took airCards were those Cradlepoint 
things, and I have not had good experiences with them.


From: Jason McKemie 
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 2:04 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pages not loading properly

The one I experienced first hand was at least 5 years old, it was a linksys 
with an aircard interface - presumably supplied by AT&T - I didn't get the 
model number.  It does seem like it maybe worked alright for a very short 
amount of time and then deteriorated quickly - although they did not claim to 
have that issue when using it with the aircard. 

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

  How antiquated?  5 years, 10 years?

  Some of the really old routers had connection tracking table as small as 200 
entries or less.  One website (or one smartphone) can chew through that.

  Does it get better after power cycling the router, but then quickly get bad 
again?


  From: Jason McKemie 
  Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 1:38 PM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pages not loading properly

  I noticed it with a few pages when I tried.  Facebook seemed to load OK when 
I opened it in a browser on which I was already signed in.  When I loaded it on 
another browser, I got text only.  AOL loaded with no images, as did a couple 
others that I tried.  However, when I bypassed the router everything seemed to 
clear up.  I installed a new router at that customer's location and did not see 
the problem afterwards.  The customers who I have heard this from all are using 
fairly antiquated routers, but they're all different brands.  Just seems 
strange that I would see similar symptoms arising from more than one of them.

  On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

    All pages, or just some pages?  If only some pages, what is the common 
thread?  HTTPS?  Third party ads and trackers?  HTTPS pages tend to be most 
affected by network issues.  Ads and trackers can actually be an issue with 
servers in your region, but other customers would be reporting it also.  Some 
customers only go to a handful of websites that are laden with third party 
content and if those ads/trackers don’t load the whole page can fail.  Other 
customers go to lots of websites and realize the problem is only with certain 
sites.

    I saw the problem you describe one time with a customer whose computer was 
infected with a clickbot, it was consuming a ton of upstream bandwidth plus 
exceeding the connection table in his router, causing other TCP sessions to be 
dropped, with the reported symptoms “pages load slow or not at all”.


    From: Jason McKemie 
    Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:51 PM
    To: [email protected] 
    Subject: [AFMUG] Pages not loading properly

    I've had a couple situations where someone asks about pages not loading 
correctly. Generally it is images not loading, but that appears to be mixed 
with pages sporadically not loading at all. I've only seen it once in person, 
and replacing the customer's router appeared to fix the issue. I've heard from 
at least one other person that has the issue on a specific device, but only 
while on their home network. I have not tried replacing the router at their 
location. Does this sound like symptoms of a router going bad or something 
else? Thanks. 

    -Jason

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