The first part is easy to explain:- 
Verizon (learned this from New Jersey storm) is actively decommissioning Copper 
plants in favor of Fiber. When an area is damaged due to weather, they are able 
to accelerate their case for total decommission and replace with Fiber (hint 
hint.. fiber is not regulated like copper and they don't have to allow sharing 
with other LEC's....), and then they open the flood gates... 

The cards they are talking about are normally optics.... it is interesting to 
hear about the 800meg limit... 
if you really need the full pipe, then I suggest a more extensive test.. Use 
the packet generator on the CCR to generate the traffic... instead of bandwidth 
test... 

Regards. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] 

> From: "Ty Featherling" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 9:52:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik

> Thanks all. This is in small-town Texas where Verizon refused to sell any
> bandwidth since they were on a TDM network there as I understand it. A storm
> came through and caused some major damage and in the process they made some
> major changes. I don't know what those changes were but as soon as they were
> complete they were suddenly selling bandwidth to all comers. We have been the
> first to bite since our options in that town are slim. They had to do all 
> kinds
> of work and order some "card" that they needed in order to turn our link up
> once they ran the fiber from their CO to our POP. It has all been delayed
> multiple times and most recently our turn up was delayed a week because Tier 2
> was investigating a performance problem on the circuit that was limiting it to
> about 800mbps. They literally called me the next day after telling me that to
> say it was all better but that is why I am suspicious.
> Thanks all,
> Ty

> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Faisal Imtiaz < [email protected] >
> wrote:

>> ok.. this is how 'conspiracy' theories are perpetuated......especially when 
>> the
>> dots are connected differently or 'some' information is provided in a hand it
>> down manner....

>> ATT = Many Network = Many Technolgies
>> Yes on TDM network there was no such thing as 1GIG, and optics and 
>> conversions
>> were very expensive.

>> however as my kids say (they are in their early and mid 20's)... "... that is
>> ancient......"
>> For most practical purposes, the Major ILEC's have shutdown their ATM 
>> networks
>> (over the last 5 year), and switched more and more of their networks over to
>> Ethernet. (hint.. hint.... Ethernet over fiber has less regulations vs any 
>> kind
>> of TDM)

>> The 25/30% performance difference between expected and actual is most likely 
>> to
>> be due to network path between the the far router he is testing with...or
>> something else....

>> I would not waste too much time on hitting the carrier on the head with those
>> results.. I would put traffic on it and let it fly... if you see issues with
>> actual traffic levels (packet loss, or bandwidth usage tapering) then I would
>> go back to the Carrier....

>> It makes no sense for any carrier today to deliver a 1gig transport, 
>> throttled
>> to 700meg.... yes if it is built on a vpls/ or evpn (i.e. l2 on top of l3) 
>> then
>> it is possible that there is a congested route..... either way it will be a 
>> lot
>> easier for both of you and them to troubleshoot it with actual traffic (if 
>> and
>> when that happens) than running iperf tests....

>> Obviously, you have to take this with a grain of salt, and YMMV.

>> Regards

>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]

>>> From: "George Skorup" < [email protected] >
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 1:14:33 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik

>>> I asked because AT&T has had this long-standing policy not to build a PTP
>>> ethernet circuit over 600Mbps. If you want a true 1Gbps, you have to buy a
>>> 10Gbps hand-off, and that's a lot of $$. Not sure if Vz does/did the same
>>> thing. I think it came from the fact that the older LED based optics were
>>> limited to 622Mbps. Or maybe something to do with ATM/OC-12 type stuff. I 
>>> don't
>>> know, but this is still the case even on their pure ethernet ASE network. 
>>> It's
>>> no longer a technical limitation, they just force you to buy the more 
>>> expensive
>>> hand-off.

>>> On 8/31/2015 10:42 PM, Ty Featherling wrote:

>>>> Gigabit ethernet. Delivered via fiber to my CCR.

>>>> -Ty
>>>> On Aug 31, 2015 9:41 PM, "George Skorup" < [email protected] > wrote:

>>>>> What type/provider is your circuit?

>>>>> On 8/31/2015 8:07 PM, Ty Featherling wrote:

>>>>>> I saw 788/440 UDP. I have suspicions this link isn't performing at 
>>>>>> gigabit so
>>>>>> thanks for the test.
>>>>>> -Ty

>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Sterling Jacobson < 
>>>>>> [email protected] >
>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>> Yeah, try me at 108.165.31.1, let me know if you can get in and what 
>>>>>>> you see.

>>>>>>> It’s a CCR on a 10Gbps connection.

>>>>>>> From: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Ty Featherling
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 1:10 PM
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Gigabit test via Mikrotik

>>>>>>> Anyone have a Mikrotik on a 10 gig connection that I can test to from a 
>>>>>>> newly
>>>>>>> turned up gigabit Verizon circuit?

>>>>>>> -Ty

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