Your thought patterns change when you are carrying a weapon.  You may be less 
reticent to avoid a dicey situation.  You may not even be aware that your 
behavior has changed.  

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 7:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

It's concealed... Shouldn't be relevant.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Oct 12, 2015 8:52 AM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" <jeffl...@att.net> wrote:

  I go out of my way to avoid any potential conflict when I'm carrying.

  Jeff Broadwick 
  ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
  312-205-2519 Office
  574-220-7826 Cell
  jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

  On Oct 11, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:


    I worry about a generation of kids raised on the Internet I encounter out 
in the real world who don’t seem to know a different set of rules apply.  I’m 
surprised more don’t get punched in the nose.  Their real nose, not an 
anonymous, virtual nose.

    Speaking of which, this video of Buzz Aldrin never gets old:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wptn5RE2I-k

    That’s probably what my father, who fought in WWII and helped liberate some 
of the death camps, would do today if he were still alive and met one of those 
Holocaust deniers.

    I also remember I think it was Mike Royko reporting that after a hockey 
game at Chicago Stadium, a fan had punched Gordie Howe in the fist with his 
face.  Google couldn’t find that for me, closest I could find was:
    
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1986-05-05/news/8602010647_1_fan-bashing-young-man

    And to be clear, I’m not threatening to punch anybody in the nose, that’s 
not my point.  I’m saying civility may be a thing of the past online, but it’s 
still a good idea IRL.

    Those of you in areas where people routinely carry firearms, does that 
cause people to think twice before insulting other people?  Or is it like the 
gangs in Chicago and they shoot instead of punching noses?  The movie Tombstone 
was on TV yesterday, nice image of uncivil society.

    Well, at least our weapon of choice when disrespected isn’t a bomb like 
some parts of the world.


    From: Mathew Howard 
    Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 4:05 PM
    To: af 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

    Well, he did say "mostly polite", not completely polite...

    And no, you probably shouldn't expect civility anywhere online, or not 
online, for that matter... unless you enjoy being disappointed :P


    On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

      So Chucks says “folks are smart and mostly polite” and then you have to 
ruin it.

      I don’t understand why it takes so little provocation these days to use 
the **tard word.  In this case, just because you disagree with some folks.  As 
I’ve turned 65 recently, I’ve noticed people using that language with senior 
citizens because they (we?) don’t move fast enough or something.  Not to 
mention it’s insulting to people with mental retardation, to use that very 
outdated term.

      Should I not expect civility online anywhere?


      From: Philip Rankin 
      Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 1:09 PM
      To: af 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

      Especially with all thee libtard views out there today!

      On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 12:10 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
<par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:


        It is also a great reminder that people in other parts of the country 
do not necessarily share your views.
        Also a great reminder that the founders of this country really did know 
what they were doing.
        For things to happen in this country you have to AGREE...which is 
becoming more and more difficult ;)

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Chuck McCown 
          To: af@afmug.com 
          Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 11:40 AM
          Subject: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

          This has been fun reading.

          I love this list.  Folks are smart and mostly polite and post some 
pretty 
          well reasoned arguments on both sides of almost any issue.  This is 
all the 
          social media I need.

          I did want to make a comment about the Illinois FOID card.

          I was a hostage in a bank robbery back in about 1993 in Quincy 
Illinois. 
          Once it was over and I got out of the bank, I  learned that a 
co-worker had 
          suffered some kind of stress attack and was in the hospital.  That 
afternoon 
          they were out of beds in some of the areas so that took him to the 
5th 
          floor.  That is the psych floor.

          Then, it turned out, anyone that gets admitted to a psych ward in 
Illinois 
          gets reported to the FOID people.
          They revoke the FOID card.

          This guy was a big time hunter.  It just about killed him.
          He got some pretty good press and got some political help.  Hot his 
card 
          back in about 6 weeks.

          So, if you want to keep your FOID stay out of psych wards!





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      Philip J. Rankin 
      Wireless Telecommunications Services
      PO Box 24
      Pittsburg, KS  66762

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