I’ve got both radios running in different areas.  The Mimosa radios are pretty 
proprietary in they are actually running about 87.5% of the PHY layer for 
throughput.  At that level, I really don’t think there is that much difference 
between the radios.  The advantage in the world I live in is that spectrum 
interference is constantly changing and that the combination of split 
frequencies and auto-everything both make my life easier and seems to maximize 
thought.  The AF5x radios however, have 10, 30 and 50MHz channel options 
whereas the Mimosa have an 80MHz channel option.  Finding the spectrum to 
maximize the radios is the real key to optimizing the AF5x and they give you 3 
distinct options.  With the Mimosa’s I don’t worry about it, they search all 
the spectrum and make the changes in terms of channels and channel widths.

What will be interesting is how both radios perform after the next firmware 
releases.  Both products are expecting big things.

Rory


From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 12:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] B5 vs AF5X


>You're looking at the difference in code rates between 256QAM 3/4 code rate 
>(MCS8) and 256QAM 5/6 code rate (MCS9)?  All >things being equal in the same 
>size TDD 40 MHz channel, of course the MCS9 radio will have a greater bps/Hz.

No. The AF5X claims to give higher performance with (8x) 256QAM compared to 
MCS9 (256QAM 5/6) of an .ac radio. AF5X is no .ac radio so they seem to have a 
different amount of subcarriers, less overhead or other modulation scheme?

http://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber/AF5X-Link-Calculator-Updated-Download/m-p/1255928#M20955

>Talking about the bps/Hz for a single stream, the specs for 802.11ac say that 
>an MCS8 channel 40 MHz wide will be 162 to 180 Mbps, while a MCS9 channel 40 
>MHz wide will be 180 to 200 Mbps.

>I am not sure the two can be compared directly side by side thanks to the B5's 
>split frequency modes of operation. They can be >better compared head to head 
>if you're using a single fixed TDD frequency (like, 5760 center channel).
Yes. I took 40MHz to be fair as 802.11ac does MCS9 only with channels greater 
equal 40MHz. And I am talking real IP capacity not physical.


On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Stefan Englhardt 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Anyone who have them both running did an unbiased comparison?
We’ve several B5 links running and are quite happy with them.
Good 11ac radios in a very neat package.

The AF5x on the other side is a custom designed radio which seems to
squeeze more mbits out of smaller channels. In a 40MHz Channel I see
an aggregated thruput of 320 Mbit/s with the B5 with 4ms framesize at
MCS9 (256QAM).
Looking at the AF5X (inofficial) link table should do 390 Mbit/s aggregated
with 2ms framesize. So they promise to do higher bandwidth with lower
latency in a 40MHz Channel (at smaller channels the difference is higher
as .ac do only MCS8).

Is the AF5X the better radio with limited spectrum while the B5 can do more
with enough spectrum available?

I’ve sites where I ran out of spectrum (ETSI) so I plan to put AF5X there.

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