See the post I made that crossed in the ether with yours Eric.

Patrick Leary, Telrad
727-501-3735

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 11:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Official Telrad response re MTU size

Not necessarily, for example:

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/interfaces-modules/4g-lte-wireless-wan-enhanced-high-speed-wan-interface-card/datasheet_c78-710314.html
And the cisco 899G: 
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/800-series-routers/datasheet_c78-732744.html
It is becoming an increasingly standard method of redundant communications to a 
site. The routers that the EHWIC module go into are commonly used in enterprise 
MPLS edge deployments.


On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Adam Moffett 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
It's not that.  LTE was made for cellular.  Ask any LTE vendor (other than 
Telrad) about doing anything other than NAT and they will ask "why would you 
want that?".  Ask them about running MPLS through a CPE and they'll think 
you're a lunatic.  To them the CPE is a cell phone.

On 11/6/2015 8:35 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
I guess nobody ever thought that an ISP might ever want to deploy MPLS-capable 
edge routers at a CPE?  Considering the cost of the CPE radios and the APs it's 
pretty weird they do not support a 1600 byte MTU.
Before anyone says "MPLS customers should be on their own PTP link if they're 
such an important business", there are numerous use cases for an MPLS customer 
router on smaller branch office size sites.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 4:50 AM, Patrick Leary 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Here you go folks. If this generates more questions, post them and I’ll seek 
more answers:

Regarding the threads about MTU settings to run optimally, here is an official 
response:

“In both WiMAX and LTE the UE is configured with an MTU setting of 1400.  This 
will enforce either MSS clamping (TCP) , PMTUD (LAN side) or worst case 
fragmentation.  The only time MTU becomes an issue is in bridge mode, in NAT 
mode the end user traffic will be working with a reduced MTU + encapsulation 
headers (28 bytes) i.e. GRE (WiMAX)  GTP (LTE).

Presently the Telrad BreezeWAY EPC can support  1918 and the eNodeB 1692.

Regarding Telrad LTE UEs, the CPE7000 is limited to 1490 and the upcoming 
CPE8000 it will be 1560 (Patrick note: I cannot give an exact timeline on the 
CPE8000 beyond an expectation of end of Q1 2016, could be sooner);

When working in bridge mode you can reduce the MTU of the LAN device or rely on 
the UE to fragment.  Preventing fragmentation is optimal and this can be 
achieved by limiting the MTU side on the LAN device connected to the UE.”

Cheers,

Patrick Leary
Telrad




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