I can't disagree that PMP450 is too expensive, but slow? ...compared to
what? and what is less buggy than ePMP, other than PMP450?

On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
wrote:

> like nearly everything from
> Cambium..it is too expensive and soo low Bandwith for the customers.
>
>
> Too expensive or slow :P
>
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> On Nov 9, 2015 9:44 AM, "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> He didn't say ePMP was too expensive, he said it had too many bugs.
>>
>> On 11/9/2015 9:40 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> Dude he thinks EPMP is way too expensive.  Doesn't read like a very
>> rational post to me.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Nov 9, 2015 9:35 AM, "Sean Heskett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> You must be doing something wrong because our experience is the complete
>>> opposite with PMP450.
>>>
>>> What does your noise floor look like?
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 8, 2015, Daniel Gerlach < <[email protected]>
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> the 450 is a 4 years old pointless product like nearly everything from
>>>> Cambium..it is too expensive and soo low Bandwith for the customers.We
>>>> have thrown it out of the Network..The epmp serie has only bugs( we
>>>> have found last week a new with heavy traffic and more than 35 CPE´s
>>>> on a AP) and Cambium told me that they can not fix it before
>>>> Christmas.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2015-11-08 4:21 GMT+01:00 Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>:
>>>> > Same on any half duplex TDD platform with PtMP and low modulation
>>>> (QPSK)
>>>> > subscribers. If you have a ubnt 5 GHz AP with a bunch of clients in
>>>> 64QAM
>>>> > 3/4 to 64QAM 5/6 and a few are on the air using QPSK 1/2, it's going
>>>> to drag
>>>> > down the performance of that whole radio and sector significantly. It
>>>> can be
>>>> > as much as from 80 Mbps aggregate to 20 Mbps.  Looking at the RSL
>>>> thresholds
>>>> > needed to operate at 1X in 450 terms, it sounds like a few of those
>>>> client
>>>> > radios are "just barely hanging on"...
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 10:37 AM, George Skorup <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> If those 1X and 2X downlink SMs are even moderately active, that
>>>> really
>>>> >> throws a wrench into the sector performance. This is true on any PMP
>>>> >> platform. We've seen our fair share of it. We've moved a couple back
>>>> to FSK
>>>> >> which is something I never, ever want to do, but it was unfortunately
>>>> >> necessary.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 11/6/2015 11:50 AM, Eric Muehleisen wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> We have a few 450 AP's with 30-40 subscribers and have been getting
>>>> >>> several slow speed complaints lately. I just chaulked it up to
>>>> issues
>>>> >>> with the SM since the AP rarely got over 20mb/s downlink. We
>>>> upgraded
>>>> >>> to 13.4 recently so we could watch our frame utilization. We started
>>>> >>> graphing it over night and as you can see, we are hitting 100% for
>>>> >>> sustained periods of time. During that time the AP is only doing
>>>> >>> approx. 23mb/s. This particular AP has 34 registered SM and the
>>>> >>> majority show 6x and 4x with 4 or 5 SM's at 2x and 1x. The
>>>> performance
>>>> >>> is a major disappointment. Anyone else have similar experiences?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> AP configuration: 20mhz channels, 2.5ms frame, 10 miles, 75%
>>>> downlink,
>>>> >>> 3 contention slots.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Attached is a screenshot of the utilization and sector throughput
>>>> >>> calculator from the Capacity Planner R13.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>

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