Its in the script
Right now visibility and eliminating traffic nobody needs is the primary
reason for any forward rules.

On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sometimes Ken I think you are reading my mind.
>
> On 11/9/2015 3:42 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> What is the rationale behind this rule in the first place?
>
> Maybe because I originally come from the routing-in-hardware world, I
> don’t even have connection tracking enabled on my network routers (with the
> exception of some dedicated routers trying to be a poor man’s Procera).  I
> guess if I had customers sharing public IPs I would have to.
>
> My view is that border/core/tower routers only care about routes, this
> packet is going to this destination IP so it goes out this interface to
> this next hop.  And some QoS marks.  Not sure I want the network routers
> worrying about stateful firewall rules and application specific fixups and
> tracking every source/destination/IP/port combination.
>
>
> *From:* Joshaven Mailing Lists <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Monday, November 09, 2015 2:26 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] drop invalid state when asymmetric
>
> You cannot have a connection that is indicated on one router continued on
> another router without being invalid.
>
> One magic trick is having the best routing information for network
> egress.  This way the device will pick the best path out and in to your
> network.
>
> Another magic trick would be to drop invalid connections on the input
> chain but not forward chain of your edge router and drop invalid on the
> forward chain on the router closest to your client.  A good connection
> would not be invalid on the customer touching router because it would
> always transverse this router.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Joshaven Potter
> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, UACA
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>
>
>
> On Nov 9, 2015, at 3:11 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> If I have some asymmetric routes on the network, and there is a drop
> invalid state rule in the forward chain, is there any magician trick to get
> around disabling this rule? (its considered invalid because connection
> tracking is only seeing half the traffic)
>
> fixing the assymetry is the long term solution, just curious about today
>
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