Maybe.  In this case the power level was NA, came back via SNMP as an error not 
zero.

From: George Skorup 
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 11:44 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450 AP on iGPS makes opposite AP invisible?

Like this.




On 11/25/2015 10:36 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

    are you taking this screen capture from the RF side of the SM 


  Yes. 

  Logged into the public IP of the SM remotely from the AP side.  Everything 
was working fine except for the strange numbers. 

  FWIW, I checked the AP and it was stuck on internal GPS despite having power 
port sync available (SyncInjector).  Not sure if that's relevant. 


  -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Schneider 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 10:09 PM 
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450 AP on iGPS makes opposite AP invisible? 

  I don’t think that would be related, but that 0% beacons is very interesting 
- are you taking this screen capture from the RF side of the SM? 

  We’ll take a look. 



  On 11/25/15, 1:48 PM, "Af on behalf of Ken Hohhof" 
mailto:[email protected][email protected] wrote: 


    Is the SM in the attached screenshot another symptom of this? 

    (passing data, good SNR, but no numbers for rcv power, signal strength 
    ratio, or beacons? 

    The rcv signal power graph via SNMP just started erroring out for no 
    apparent reason, reboot the SM and it came back.  I don't think I've seen 
    this before. 


    -----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett 
    Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 1:35 PM 
    To: [email protected] 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450 AP on iGPS makes opposite AP invisible? 

    Don't abuse it. 

    On 11/25/2015 2:32 PM, George Skorup wrote: 

      I knew it, you DO have an email filter that looks for your name.... :) 

      And this sounds awesome. 

      On 11/24/2015 10:00 PM, Aaron Schneider wrote: 

        Coming in 14.1.1 for 450/450i and 13.4.1 for 100/430 series, you’ll see 
        fixes for lining up the various sync sources.  Over time, they have 
been 
        a bit off from each other both on sync source (multiple devices) as 
well 
        as some SW releases.  We have dug in to try to correlate all of these, 
        including 3rd party devices such as the SyncPipe.  Once you get systems 
        up on these versions, they’ll line up with each other in a much tighter 
        fashion.  Until then, loading 13.4.1 on 100/430 and/or 14.1.1 on 
        450/450i, there will be a configuration option to align the offsets 
with 
        respect to the SW running remainder of your frequency reuse sectors. 

        If you have mixed timing installations (sync over power vs sync over 
        timing), you’ll want to upgrade everything to 13.4.1 or 14.1.1. 

        There will be more details in the release notes regarding this 
addition. 

        Regarding autosync, we are planning to go over that in depth too for 
the 
        next release.   The idea and promise was set it and forget it, but 
        unfortunately, we’ve had some issues in this area that we need to 
        address. 

        Regards, 
        -Aaron 



        On 11/22/15, 11:54 AM, "Af on behalf of George 
        Skorup"mailto:[email protected][email protected]  wrote: 


          I get this on sites with SyncPipes and SyncInjectors. Those put out 
CMM3 
          aligned timing. The on-board GPS is CMM4 aligned. Is the CTM2 CMM3 or 
4 
          type timing? I don't know how much difference there is exactly, but I 
          don't get LBT hits on 3GHz, so they're probably not that far apart. I 
          wonder if Cambium could give us a toggle between CMM3 and CMM4 for 
the 
          on-board GPS? Paging Aaron Schneider.... 

          AFAIK, the stuck issue is/was only the FreeRun mode. AutoSync does 
not 
          go back to the timing port or power port if they return while it's 
          running on the on-board. I wish that was the case. The on-board is OK 
          for backup, but most of ours work maybe 70% or less, some have never 
          worked since install. Many of them created more problems than 
benefits, 
          so I disable them where needed. 

          On 11/22/2015 9:08 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: 

            Has anyone else seen this? 

            I have an ABAB site where some SMs couldn't register to the AP or 
see 
            it in AP Eval Data, but could see the opposite AP (same frequency, 
            very low signal level, different color code).  I checked and the 
            opposite AP was stuck on iGPS despite having power port sync 
            available.  I power cycled the opposite AP, which then came up on 
            power port sync, and the SM registered to the correct AP. 

            I still have these on 13.2.1 and maybe 14.1.1 will fix the "stuck 
on 
            iGPS sync" problem. 

            But how was the one AP masking the other?  The only thing I can 
think 
            of is the sync was slightly different and somehow that prevented 
the 
            SM from seeing the beacons, despite the signal being much higher.  
The 
            only other unique thing about the config is these APs are on 5845 
(10 
            MHz channel), so they are on the highest available frequency.  The 
            power port sync is coming from a CTM2 over 300 ft cables. 

            Changing out the SM didn't make a difference. 








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