Patrick, is this you?

On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Dan Petermann <[email protected]> wrote:

> This is a pretty good article on stopping power.
> http://www.breachbangclear.com/the-truth-about-stopping-power-anatomy-first/
>
> Here is a very short summary: Unless you separate the brain from the
> spinal column, one shot stopping power really isn’t true in most cases.
>
>
> On Dec 7, 2015, at 10:02 AM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I would agree that "bigger is better" if the energy transfer and temporal
> cavity were that much different between 9mm and 45ACP, but in reality, they
> are not.
>
> Now if you step up to a hand cannon like a 44mag or .500SW, that's a bit
> different... but good luck concealed carrying those on a hot summer day.
>
> I'll leave you with this, for some "light reading" on handgun calibers,
> temporal cavities, rounds to incapacitate, etc.
> http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/alternate-look-handgun-stopping-power
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Cameron Crum <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I carry a Colt 45 Defender. It is relatively small for a 45. An NSA buddy
>> of mine, who had been in several close range shootouts in his career asked
>> me one time why I carry a 45. I told him that I'd never been in a
>> firefight. I don't train in high pressure situations, and while I'm
>> proficient at the range, I don't train for situations like he did or the
>> cops do. If I am in a situation where I have to pull a gun, my adrenaline
>> is going to be pumping like crazy, and I may be moving to cover or trying
>> to stay out of the way of bullets myself. I may only hit what I'm shooting
>> at once if I'm lucky. I want the once to count.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 10:30 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> define legally
>>> If a bear shits in the woods, will tight shoes cause callouses?
>>>
>>> I dont know why any of you want these killing machines, the government
>>> has guns, and we pay them to protect us. Your gun, if you hand it to a bad
>>> guy, is 100% of the time going to be in the bad guys possession, and if
>>> that bad guy happens to be 5, youve just given a child a handgun, are you
>>> saying we should arm children? Why are you trying to kill children,
>>> children are the future, teach them well and let them lead the way.
>>>
>>>
>>> Imperialist scum be furthering decline humanity. Mighty leader will
>>> devour you in fear.
>>>
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>>> ​
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can you legally own hand grenades?
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 07, 2015 9:15 AM
>>>> *To:* af <[email protected]>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WAY OT: Concealed Carry handguns - which to buy
>>>> and why
>>>>
>>>> you do if you want to conceal it... :P
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You don’t need a CC to carry a Springfield 30-06....
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Paul McCall <[email protected]>
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 07, 2015 9:03 AM
>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] WAY OT: Concealed Carry handguns - which to buy
>>>>> and why
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am getting my CC permit (Florida) in a week or so.  I took an
>>>>> absolutely excellent class from the main trainer at the Brevard county
>>>>> sheriff’s office.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, I am looking for an excellent CC gun to use, as my long barrel
>>>>> Colt 38 is not a good fit for that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am certain that this group probably has a LOT of expertise (and many
>>>>> opinions) on THE gun to use.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> J
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul McCall, Pres.
>>>>>
>>>>> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>>>>
>>>>> 772-564-6800 office
>>>>>
>>>>> 772-473-0352 cell
>>>>>
>>>>> www.pdmnet.com
>>>>>
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


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