I hate our crockpot with the digital controls.   Doesn't turn back on if your 
power blips for a second.  terrible design and you come home to cold roast.

Sometimes analog is better.

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From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 10:02 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

Yes, it is kind of silly. It was a gift. I'm not sure that I ever really use 
its management feature for anything useful, but it is kind of fun to see its 
MAC address show up on my home network.

It uses a tiny amount of bandwidth unlike a device like a dropcam.

Expect to see a lot more dropcam-like competitors in the next 3-4 years that 
consume upstream bandwidth pretty much 24x7. Already several companies like 
Xiaomi which has a $36 camera:

https://www.google.ca/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=xiaomi+security+camera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=i_NqVseDFsmV8QeazaiIDw



On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Darren Shea 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Isn’t most of the appeal of a Crock-Pot/Slow Cooker the fact you do NOT need to 
micro-manage it? I put in the pot roast and veggies (or a batch of chili, or a 
pork shoulder), turn the thing on and let it do its thing for 4-6 hours, and I 
have yummy food.

I don’t want an SNMP-enabled Crock-Pot I have to monitor on MRTG!

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf 
Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 9:50 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

my slow cooker has a 2.4 GHz single chain 802.11n radio in it

http://www.amazon.com/Crock-Pot-Wifi-Enabled-6-Quart-Cooker-SCCPWM600-V1/dp/B00IPEO02C

http://www.crock-pot.ca/en_CA/slow-cookers/crock-pot-wemo-enabled-smart-slow-cooker/SCCPWM600-V1.html

On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Darren Shea 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Oh, YES – this.

Photo Sharing and iCloud Backup on phones and Macs, Windows Update, a 
BitTorrent share of the latest Game of Thrones episode, a sullen teenager 
hiding in a closet watching Netflix, Dad furiously trying to top his high score 
on that speedtest.net<http://speedtest.net> “game” – all of these use 
bandwidth, whether or not you know they’re active. This seems to be a good 60%+ 
of our support calls these days

Also…

Remember: On the internet, no one knows you’re a dog.

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf 
Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 9:56 AM

To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

Haha, my new favorite thing customers say:  “But I’m not even on my phone”

Sorry, customer, the OS and apps are running, and your device is using your 
Internet without you.  Not to mention your Roku, satellite receiver, smart TV, 
Dropcam, garage door opener, sump pump, refrigerator, light bulbs, and probably 
your pets.


From: Chuck Hogg<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 9:28 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

We have gigs more capacity than we use.  The Procera is much more than that.

So many tools...We use it as a tool to identify usage, so that users can be 
told how their connection is being used when they say they are not using 
it....bandwidth shaping for 900MHz AP's...network diagnostics for VoIP...and 
many more.  Support loves it, begs for it, and uses it on most bandwidth 
complaint calls.

Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Stefan Englhardt 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
This is why I try to solve bandwidth problems with throwing more bandwidth in.


Von: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Im Auftrag 
von Chuck Hogg
Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 17:49
An: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

Example, our Procera licensing lapsed, I just paid the full price to get us 
current, even though we will only be getting <6mths of support.

Regards,
Chuck

On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Rory Conaway 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Same with Barracuda basically.

Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf 
Of Simon Westlake
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 7:51 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

I would not buy a 7720. If it's not listed on Procera's website under 
'Products', it's EOL and they may not even license it anymore. Without 
licensing, it's essentially worthless.

What I would do is contact a Procera reseller first, let them know what you're 
looking at, and they can generate a quote for you to license/support it. It may 
be cheaper than buying a new one if it's an expensive chassis, but I doubt you 
would save much in this particular case, and you may end up with an unusable 
chassis.

On 12/5/2015 9:48 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
>
> What are the cons of buying a used procera?
>
> http://m.ebay.com/itm/PacketLogic-Procera-PL7720-IPE-DPI-Appliance-Pac
> ket-Shaper-Deep-packet-inspect-/301749867874?nav=SEARCH
>

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