Back when Cellphones were the size of a refrigerator .. they would bleed
into 902-914Mhz part of ISM band.  Any scanner or SA with demod would pick
up conversations.. it became a past time listening to calls on the road
while traveling the roads of America.    It did cause issues with WaveLAN
links if tower close to our antennas.   In a galaxy far far away...
On Dec 18, 2015 11:21 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:

> At this tower with FSK, we knew there was another WISP (let's call them
> ABC) with an AP 9 miles away LOS on 915 MHz.  And we always got the best
> results if we also went on 915 MHz and matched their timing parameters,
> rather than trying to avoid them.
>
> After experimenting with the 450i equipment, I am convinced that another
> WISP (let's call them XYZ) is operating 900 FSK APs in our area with AP
> Eval Data turned off.  I know we have a competitor who thinks it's cute to
> do that.  I think that's a douchebag thing to do.
>
> Anyway, I'm also convinced that while ABC and us have our APs pointed at
> each other, we may be seeing XYZ's SMs as much as their APs.  Coexistence
> in 900 MHz is tough because free space loss is low so LOS signal carries a
> long distance, plus NLOS signal gets through trees and even scatters off
> them, plus even the highest gain antennas don't have narrow beams.  You
> can't count on SMs using narrow beam antennas pointed only at their own
> tower.
>
> So while smartgrid and RTK are certainly contributors to the noise level,
> I think we have XYZ using the bottom and top of the band but in stealth
> mode. Probably they see ABC on 915 and avoid them.  So we are able to
> coordinate timing parameters with ABC and coexist in the traditional manner
> on the same channel.
>
> It is possible that we are seeing SMs on other ABC sectors pointed away
> from us, but we are only 135 feet AGL, and I don't think their subs would
> be high enough that we would see them 10 miles away, given earth curvature.
>
> So the next hurdle was setting the timing parameters on the 450i to match
> ABC's PMP100.  For some reason there are checkboxes for what firmware
> revision the PMP100 is running, and whether it uses timing port or power
> port sync.  We did not previously have to know this much detail, I wonder
> why.  Anyway, I finally hit on a combination that worked:  5 ms frame,
> numbers from the Cambium compatibility tool, and Legacy Framing Mode off.
> At this point, I was able to get the SMs to register at 915 MHz and run
> MIMO-B in a 7 MHz channel.  Actually, I started by putting the FSK timing
> parameters into the compatibility tool (75%, 10 miles, 3 slots) and it said
> OK without any futzing around.
>
> Some other observations:
>
> 1)  You can power the AP with power port sync off a CTM-2 in 56V OFDM mode
> using an adapter cable with pins 5 and 7 swapped, as described in the
> manual for a CMM4.  I assume the same is true for a 430 SyncInjector.
>
> 2)  According to the CTM-2, the AP is drawing 10 watts (we are not using
> the AUX port to power anything), so don't get scared by the 30 watt number.
>
> 3)  The AP and SM are capable of up to 25 dBm xmt power, but with 12 and
> 13 dBi antennas it will be slightly less due to regulatory limits.  Check
> the AP config to make sure it is set to the max you are allowed, I think
> mine started out set to 22 dBm.  Many WISPs no doubt are using ~17 dBi
> yagis or grids without turning down the EIRP to 36 dBm, if so, a legal 450i
> system will be at a disadvantage by comparison although antenna gain
> doesn't always help through foliage.
>
> 4)  If you leave all the channels and widths enabled, expect it to take
> forever for an SM to register.  You need to uncheck some of the boxes.
>
> 5)  If you do an SA when you first install the AP and see -35 at 900 MHz,
> it may be your tower guy's cellphone.
>
> 6)  The AP has no internal GPS.
>
> 7)  16 inch coax jumpers will be a little tight, 18 inches or longer will
> be better (assuming LMR240).
>
> 8)  The AP comes with one gland which looks like the LPU grounding gland
> but it has a rubber insert which is already slit and you can get a
> pre-terminated cable through it.  It doesn't come with a second gland for
> the AUX port.
>
> 9)  The sector requires lots of different wrench sizes, I think the list
> is 10, 12 and 14 mm.
>
> 10)  Cambium has made installing the CPE equipment a piece of cake.
> Basically take the pre-assembled antenna out of the box, snap on the SM,
> attach the SMA connectors and slide the boots down, the only assembly is
> the U-bolts.  It's very nice.
>
>

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