Last that I spoke with KP about it, they were still in development for 900MHz 450i products. Then again, I have been trying to get two of their dual frequency sectors which are supposedly out of development since WISPAPALOOZA in October. They were "two weeks out on the shipment" two months ago. Then it was "should be here by XMAS". I called again this week and was told that there would be a sales meeting next Thursday and maybe then they would know something. I think the boat sank. My last two orders from KP have been nothing but issues. Since they had some new products I figured I'd try them again. Not super impressed.
On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: > I really don't think I would mess with it, if it wasn't already on the > tower... I certainly wouldn't buy a new one. If you really want a 120 > degree sector there are some dual slants out there (L-com has one), but all > of them I've seen seem to have fairly poor F/B specs. > > Also, I heard Cambium does have a 120 in the works... whether or not > that's still going to happen, I don't know. > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Just going by the spec sheet, that sector is 120 degrees at the 6 dB >> points (109 degrees HPOL). Plus it is V/H not dual slant. Plus there is >> no F/B spec. >> >> If you already have one on the tower, it makes sense to try and use it. >> But for a new installation, is the difference between 90 and 109 degrees >> enough to worry about? Or maybe ring up KPP and see if they have something >> in the pipeline that would be 120 degrees at 3 dB, dual slant, good F/B, >> and maybe even with N connectors and a mounting bracket for the 450i AP? >> >> >> *From:* Wireless Administrator <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 2:01 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi >> (AM-9M13-120) >> >> >> I’m with you on that. I spent about 2 weeks in denial before I finally >> gave up. Maybe someone else here will comment on possibilities. >> >> >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 2:45 PM >> *To:* af >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi >> (AM-9M13-120) >> >> >> >> Interesting, I don't have anything to compare the sector we have to >> (there hasn't ever been any other 900mhz on the tower), and the clients are >> all NLOS, so calculations aren't useful, so I can't say that ours is >> actually working as well as it should... but there's no reason why it >> should work any differently with a Canopy radio attached to it than it does >> with a UBNT radio (unless there's a problem with the adapter, of course). >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Wireless Administrator <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Calculated levels and comparison to integrated AP performance. All three >> sectors had the same issues. We tried every possible combination even >> slant holding stinger on a 45deg angle. I was just hoping to hear from >> someone who could explain why or perhaps from someone who got it working. >> >> >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 1:57 PM >> *To:* af >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi >> (AM-9M13-120) >> >> >> >> 6db off compared to what? another sector, or calculated signal levels? >> >> I'm a little concerned about using V/H as well, which is why I opted to >> go with a Cambium sector for our first AP, rather than doing this project >> now. Apparently it does work to mix V/H and slant antennas with PMP450 - >> Cambium confirmed that is the case with 3.65 (the new high gain SM is V/H >> and the sectors are slant), so I'm assuming it will work fine with the >> 900mhz 450i as well... and the Cambium dual slant yagis can easily be >> converted to V/H as well... whether or not it will work as well as slant, >> probably largely depends on the environment it's deployed in. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Wireless Administrator <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Mathew, >> >> >> >> We tried PMP100 and even with one sector and one AP performance was 6db >> off the expected level. >> >> >> >> We haven’t implemented 450i-900 yet but would be concerned about V/H vs >> Dual Slant. >> >> >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:45 AM >> *To:* af >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi >> (AM-9M13-120) >> >> >> >> I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work with either setup. If there >> are multiple sectors on a tower, you may run into some issues doing >> frequency re-use, since I don't think the F/B ratio is as good as the >> Cambium sectors, but if you're talking about a single sector, I don't see >> that there would be any issues. >> >> I am actually planning to upgrade the Ubiquiti 900mhz sector we have to a >> 450i this spring, and re-use the UBNT antenna. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:08 AM, Wireless Administrator <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Does anyone have experience trying to use the following antenna with >> Cambium access points? >> >> >> >> Ubiquiti 120 Degree 900MHz MIMO 13dBi (AM-9M13-120) >> >> >> >> Would it work with either a pair of PMP100 AP’s to provide v/h coverage >> or with the new 450 gear in a V/H implementation? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
