I actually was faced with this dilemma once... (I think I was 18 at the time)  
picked up a girl at an all night restaurant, took her home... then I learned 
she was 15 or 16, her dad was a cop and she lived in the apartment two up from 
mine.    

Totally killed the moment....  She was OK with everything, I was not OK.

From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 2:00 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pay Rates For Installer / Troubleshooter?

16 will get you 20, illinois made 17 copacetic though

On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

  I thought she was 18...

  -----Original Message----- From: Josh Reynolds
  Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 1:57 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pay Rates For Installer / Troubleshooter?

  What if he was 18 and she was 16 or 17?

  On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:47 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
  <[email protected]> wrote:

    that gave me lolz

    On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:


      I have hired felons.  With mixed results.  Always willing to give someone
      a second chance depending on what they did.   Whadya got against sex
      criminals?


      
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/arons-list/2937457?onid=148621

      From: That One Guy /sarcasm
      Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:26 PM
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pay Rates For Installer / Troubleshooter?

      a construction background is a plus for sure.


      I always wondered about felons. In house its not really an issue, but what
      do you do if a felon applies? alot of these guys just made a mistake, but
      still, alot of people wouldnt want a felon in their home just for that
      reason alone. If I owned a company like this Id probably hire a felon 
under
      most circumstances as long as it wasnt a sex crime and if it was at least 
a
      five year old felony.
      I have a 20 year old theft charge that was a misdemeanor (I had
      appropriated 10k high school lunch tickets and was reselling them as 
quite a
      discount, they did a sting operation), not a felony, but Ive always been
      open about it, made sure they knew before they sent me into a bank

      On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Ben Royer <[email protected]> wrote:


        It’s too unique of a job to expect to hire a ‘Wireless Internet
        Installer’ right out the gates, they don’t exist in the wild, you have 
to
        create them.  We primarily look for people that are willing to learn, 
out
        going, personable, NOT AFRAID OF HEIGHTS (seems simple, but we’ve even 
had
        people say they aren’t, hire them, turns out, they are), and we usually 
try
        to look for some basic computer knowledge, that way we know they at 
least
        will know some of what we are talking about when we start the training
        process.  We have had pretty good luck with military folks, and some ok 
luck
        with satellite installers.  Either way, you’re going to be spending a 
good
        amount of time in training the employee to meet your company’s 
standards.

        Thank you,
        Ben Royer, Operations Manager
        Royell Communications, Inc.
        217-965-3699 www.royell.net

        From: Christopher Gray
        Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 11:58 AM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pay Rates For Installer / Troubleshooter?

        A related question... that may be more important.

        What qualifications / skills do others look for in an installer?


        I think I've been looking for too much..


        ________________________________

        On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:


          When I first started as a WISP, I tried to use a satellite installer 
as
          a contractor, and it didn’t work out because being a satellite dish
          installer was all about cramming in 6-8 installs a day to make any 
money.
          The workmanship was lacking.

          But I think in the last 10 years, standards have gotten a lot better 
in
          the sat dish industry.


          From: Christopher Gray
          Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 10:08 PM
          To: [email protected]
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pay Rates For Installer / Troubleshooter?

          So far,

          The satellite installer is the only option that I've found that could
          work on a contract basis so far. He has his own company, storefront, 
truck,
          tools, etc. He does contract work for a variety of satellite TV and 
Internet
          services, as well as antenna installations. Those rates are fairly 
high,
          though.

          Everyone else I'm considering would have to be an employee. I haven't
          found anyone willing to do the work for a reasonable price, though.


          ________________________________

          On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Jay Weekley
          <[email protected]> wrote:


            You man want to research some of the gotchas involved in contract 
work.
            Doug Hass may be a good resource to make sure you're treating your
            contractor as a contractor and not inadvertently as an employee.


            Christopher Gray wrote:


              I've been working as a one-man shop for a while. I've started 
looking
              for part-time help. I've even talked to a satellite installer 
about doing
              some contract work.

              What sort of rates are typically paid to someone doing 
installations
              and troubleshooting?

              [I realize this varies by region, but I'd like to at least get an 
idea
              of what I should be offering.]

              Thanks - Chris













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