I remember before everybody became retarded sissies there was Mr wizards
world, hooked a two fork to an extension cord to cook a hot dog.... Too
many helmets now for that
On Jan 22, 2016 7:22 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Did you get patent royalties from Presto for their Hot DoggerTM?
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2016 7:15 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Fw: whats this guy doing?
>
> The best part is when the hot dog is really hot, you can turn the lights
> off and it has flashes of light coming out of it.
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2016 6:01 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing?
>
> I built a hot dog cooker when I was in the 4th grade that did the same
> thing.  Worked great.
>
> *From:* Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2016 5:59 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing?
>
> If you want to see something REALLY scary, even scarier than the 220VAC
> hot-water-showerheads:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EViyccc2t9w
>
> it's not even a resistive coil heater, it simply applies AC electricity
> directly to the water.
>
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Cameron Crum <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> You wouldn't do well in South America. The shower heads are 220v heat on
>> demand and all seem to have two temperatures, ice cold or scald the hell
>> out of you. Always made me nervous seeing two wires running into the wall
>> from the same device where my water was coming out.  I said a little prayer
>> every time I got in the shower just in case I was found dead and naked with
>> what was left of my hair on fire.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 11:12 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I know its a stupid fear, but I have never liked mixing water and
>>> electricity for hot water. Im "that guy" who works on things live quite
>>> often because "it will just take a minute". I could knock in my chimney
>>> instead of fixing the flashing to stop the leak if I switched to an
>>> electric water heater for about the same cost as the flashing work (when I
>>> flash, I flash things for life... and because the movie sucked, but thats a
>>> different topic). I just foresee our city water having dissolve the liner
>>> and me down there at three in the morning half drunk (well sh%^face) with
>>> my metal leatheman and no shoes dicking around with it in my boxers and
>>> then next thing you know, Imin the ER with some broad trying to shove a
>>> tube up my crank.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pretty much every washing machine in the UK and continental Europe is
>>>> like that, and the Samsung or LG machines imported into 230V-using Arabian
>>>> peninsular countries, Pakistan, India, etc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Didn’t know such a thing existed.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2016 9:44 AM
>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing?
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the great things about having 230V 15A circuits in a house, you
>>>>> can install a front loading washing machine that electrically heats its 
>>>>> own
>>>>> water as it fills, on demand. Only requires a cold water connection, 
>>>>> drain,
>>>>> and electricity. No hot water hookup at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, I learned a few things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Nate Burke <[email protected]>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2016 3:49 PM
>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEfP1OKKz_Q
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/21/2016 4:48 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a daughter that lives in the UK.  Never understood why they
>>>>>> need to be so large, why they have a switch.  Seems like unnecessary cost
>>>>>> etc.  Fused plug is just one more thing to fail and cost you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do like 220 everywhere.  I wonder if it is referenced to earth
>>>>>> ground?
>>>>>> Seems like it would be safer to float it.  And with 220 your wires
>>>>>> can be so much smaller.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2016 3:42 PM
>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we really wanted everything to be safe we would use shuttered
>>>>>> BS1363 (UK code) receptacles with fused plugs, even for 120VAC 15A 
>>>>>> circuits.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most people in the US have never worked with them, but they're very
>>>>>> mechanically robust and safe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.google.ca/search?q=BS1363&num=100&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjSxv2F_bvKAhULzGMKHVtQCg8Q_AUIBygB&biw=1473&bih=1004
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 1:39 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We added an addition to the quarters at the ambulance I worked for,
>>>>>>> I came in just as the electircian was finishing up and saw them all 
>>>>>>> ground
>>>>>>> up. I told him I didnt want to be "that guy" but they were upside down. 
>>>>>>> He
>>>>>>> explained the reason, said it was code too, but ive never verified that,
>>>>>>> but the reason makes sense, so ground up ever since for me
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree with the often/soften thing... unless you pronounce soften
>>>>>>>> wrong.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know I am in the minority on this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Same as the proper way to pronounce the word “often”.
>>>>>>>>> (Rhymes with soften).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am OK with being totally right and nobody agreeing with me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From:* Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2016 2:15 PM
>>>>>>>>> *To:* af <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is definitely not upside down! what is wrong with you...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, probably no box, just drywall for the photo.
>>>>>>>>>> But I would say the receptacle is upside down too.
>>>>>>>>>> (that is a PC vs apple, red state vs blue state kind of thing)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2016 2:11 PM
>>>>>>>>>> *To:* af <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] whats this guy doing?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also, the way that outlet is mounted is... nice!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Mathew Howard <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure Chuck is right... a mouse is the first thing
>>>>>>>>>>> that came to my mind.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m gonna get that mouse!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2016 1:41 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] whats this guy doing?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.harborfreight.com/3-16-inch-x-33-ft-fiberglass-wire-running-kit-65326.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Click the picture of the guy at the outlet. Somebody tell us
>>>>>>>>>>>> what the hell he is doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see
>>>>>>>>>>>> your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the team.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>
>>
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