Seems like some of you gents need to see this video and mellow down...it will put it all in perspective.... or I could quote Adam Smith and others but that so cerebral....enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBRrCY5uhWY&sns=em On Feb 2, 2016 8:50 AM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Right now if I go to Bing, for example, and type in "what ISPs are in > my $zipcode"... > > It's not using the location data correctly, for one. The first few > pages are nothing but spam and clickbait. There isn't a single, actual > provider one that page. > > Using Yahoo I get the same thing, but there's even more ads. > > Using google, there are actual real results of providers that actually > provide service in this area, as well as a handful of fairly > trustworth review sites. > > Tell me, which one is more useful? > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > > It doesn’t bother you that a search for high speed Internet in your town > is > > useless because Google lets lead generators game their system so that the > > first several pages of results are ISPs that don’t even have service > there? > > > > Money and monopoly power has corrupted Google’s search business (and > > associated services like Maps). They are obviously not strapped for > cash, > > they should spend a few bucks fixing their search engine. Until they > do, we > > should look for and use better search engines. So don’t use Google to > find > > a locksmith. Better choices like Yelp and Angies List come to mind, plus > > probably some I’m not thinking of at the moment. > > > > > > From: Josh Reynolds > > Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 9:05 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAD day > > > > > > You just described every large scale data source ever. > > > > Congratulations > > > > On Feb 2, 2016 8:41 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Locked out of your house? Don’t use Google to find a locksmith. > >> > >> > >> > http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/31/business/fake-online-locksmiths-may-be-out-to-pick-your-pocket-too.html > >> > >> Read the whole article to find out just how badly Google search and map > >> results are corrupted. This locksmith must be legit, I can see their > >> building on Google Maps. Oh, not really there, created by Photoshop and > >> “crowdsourcing”. And driven by a “lead generator” to make it look > local. > >> And advertising $19 but paying twice that to Google for the AdWords > click. > >> SCAM, SCAM, SCAM. > >> > >> > >> From: George Skorup > >> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 11:44 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAD day > >> > >> Nobody says "Let me Bing/Yahoo that". So yeah, Google is how you search > >> the interwebs. But I agree on the other point. I do not trust any > company > >> that has (or can have) such huge control over information. Be it Google, > >> Microsoft, Apple, etc... or the government. > >> > >> On 2/1/2016 11:36 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: > >> > >> I would use Yahoo or Bing or any other search engine. Nothing would > change > >> if Google went away tomorrow. > >> > >> Blackberries and Android wouldn't even exist if Apple hadn't created the > >> first iPhone. Same with tablets... look how many people tried tablets > before > >> Apple, and they all failed. > >> > >> I purchased a Macbook for my daughter headed to college 5 years ago. She > >> used that laptop literally every day, for over 5 years. She graduated > with > >> two Bachelor's degrees... using that same laptop. Every paper, > thousands of > >> emails, etc... and she has never had a single issue... no viruses, no > >> hardware issues, no software issues. Never a single issue. No OS > reload, no > >> malware scanners, nothing. It just works. Just like all the rest of > Apple's > >> products... they just work. > >> > >> Travis > >> > >> > >> On 2/1/2016 10:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > >> > >> The world's most popular site and you don't think the world would > change? > >> Really??? > >> > >> Apple is gone. People buy Blackberries and Android. Tablets probably > >> won't exist. Mp3 players would probably have come to fruition without > them. > >> What else do they have? > >> > >> Josh Luthman > >> Office: 937-552-2340 > >> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >> 1100 Wayne St > >> Suite 1337 > >> Troy, OH 45373 > >> > >> On Feb 2, 2016 12:22 AM, "Travis Johnson" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> At least Apple makes products... products that literally changed the > >>> computing world, the phone world, the retail world, created apps, and > the > >>> music world. Google created a search engine (actually copying Yahoo, > >>> Webcrawler, Altavista and several others at the time). They aren't a > >>> "product". They don't "sell" anything. They are a webpage, just like > >>> Facebook. > >>> > >>> Imagine your life without Google or Facebook. NOTHING CHANGES. > >>> > >>> Yes, they built a better mousetrap using their intelligence and hard > >>> work... but they aren't "inventors". They didn't create anything new or > >>> groundbreaking. > >>> > >>> Travis > >>> > >>> On 2/1/2016 10:09 PM, Colin Stanners wrote: > >>> > >>> I'd much rather Google / Alphabet Inc. be in that position than Apple > >>> with their overpriced yet restricted / non-upgradable / crappy consumer > >>> electronics. > >>> > >>> Google is making themselves the curator of access to the world's > >>> information and communications. When you consider the value of those, > it's > >>> not just the most valuable company in matters of money. The founders > had > >>> incredible foresight in addition to their intelligence and hard work. > >>> > >>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Travis Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > http://www.ibtimes.com/alphabet-inc-goog-surpasses-apple-inc-aapl-become-worlds-most-valuable-public-company-2289113 > >>>> > >>>> "The world isn't run by weapons anymore, or energy, or money. It's run > >>>> by little ones and zeroes, little bits of data. It's all just > electrons." > >>>> ~ Cosmo (Sneakers 1992) > >>>> > >>>> Literally, a one page website for a company that is less than 19 years > >>>> old is now the most valuable company in the world. :( > >>>> > >>>> Travis > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > >
