Yeah, we expect them to switch. We are uninstalling the equipment. I am just trying to figure out how long we should ban them for. I really don't care if they ever come back. Pirates are a hassle for me, and could potentially land any of us in front of a judge.
On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote: > Realistically if you shut me off I would switch to a new provider within a > day. I don't know what kind of person would stick around on a ban no matter > what the length of time is. > > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote: > >> For those of you who actually do some sort of enforcement, what amount of >> time do you ban them for? I figure even at 90 days they will get a new >> provider. So I was just going to go with one year. Is that excessive? >> >> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Justin Wilson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> You designate an “agent” within your company. I typical register the >>> CEO, operations, or someone like that that as the agent. You would have no >>> issue registering yourself as the agent. I would recommend you create a >>> copyright@ e-mail address and use that as the designated e-mail >>> contact. That way you know a request to copyright@ is most likely >>> someone following protocol. >>> >>> It’s like CALEA. Their just needs to be the proper person on file to >>> contact, and server due process should it come to that. >>> >>> Justin Wilson >>> [email protected] >>> >>> --- >>> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO >>> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth >>> >>> http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman >>> >>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 3:27 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I really have no idea about that. So I need to hire an agent, and then >>> ignore all but the requests that come to me from that agent? >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Justin Wilson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> The biggest thing I use in a determination is did they send it to the >>>> Registered Copyright Agent on file? You do have one correct? :-) >>>> http://copyright.gov/onlinesp/ >>>> >>>> If you have one, and it’s not sent to that agent, it’s not a real >>>> request IMHO. >>>> >>>> >>>> Justin Wilson >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> --- >>>> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO >>>> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth >>>> >>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman >>>> >>>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 1:34 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> It can't charge the copyright holder, but could it charge to company >>>> sending out the notices if they aren't the CRH? :) >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Keefe John <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> This has been discussed before, the DMCA safe harbor doesn't allow the >>>> provider to charge the copyright holder for this. >>>> >>>> On 2/2/2016 12:03 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> That's going to end up in a big mess of a lawsuit eventually. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Sterling Jacobson < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Haha! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If it’s against your AUP, make sure you have a clause in there that says >>>> you >>>> charge per incident. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Then go ahead and charge the customer. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sounds like if you are just going to kick them off eventually, might as >>>> well >>>> try to keep them, but make it costly. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If they don’t pay it, then they are off. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Nothing legally wrong with it if its in your policy I think. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] On >>>> Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm >>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 10:57 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DMCA Time Management Fee >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Oh wow, youre seriously looking for a fight with customers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> What do you thing about charging a fee every time that a customer gets a >>>> DMCA takedown notice. These notices take time to track down and follow >>>> up >>>> on. If we charged $20 every time it would make it not really worth it >>>> to >>>> pirate that $10 movie. I would think that it should be legal, so long >>>> as >>>> we >>>> add it to our customer agreement. Anyone ever thought about this? >>>> Right >>>> now we pass on 5 of them and then make them find a new provider. It >>>> seems >>>> like they would be less likely to hit 5 if they had to pay $20 for each >>>> one. >>>> We really don't want these guys on our network anyway, so no sweat if >>>> they >>>> just cancel. Is anyone out there charging customers a fee for these? I >>>> know most of you just ignore them, but we like passing them on, as it >>>> lowers >>>> our overall usage. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >>>> as >>>> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >
