Haha, first 2 steps for enterprise customer support:

1)  Are you at the site, or are you calling from a remote NOC because your 
monitoring system can’t ping the site?

2)  Assuming you are not at the site, have you verified the site has power?


From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 8:45 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Call center pricing

I've spoken with ServerPlus about a "Tier 2" level of support. I'm not sure 
where they are in that as I've been sidetracked since I asked. It was basically 
an avenue to send dedicated\wholesale\"special customers" (tower owners, etc.). 
It would cost more, but you'd get someone that knew what was going on. Maybe 
they're smart enough to check Ethernet port status, BGP session status, know 
what a good wireless connection is from a bad one, etc.




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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP






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From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 8:39:32 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Call center pricing

A call center will never be as good at tech support as your own staff will be.  
They can help people reboot, and they can follow whatever troubleshooting steps 
you give them to follow.  They can do basic billing and sales stuff as long as 
you give them the information they need to do that.  You can't expect them to 
figure out anything that would require knowledge of your network, and to be 
frank I would try to keep your expectations as low as possible.  Write them a 
troubleshooting guide as if you were writing it for an idiot.....be specific 
and clear and provide pictures. 

Also, if you have any high value business accounts, make sure to account for 
that somehow.  Your enterprise customers will get riled up if the call center 
tries to walk them through rebooting their equipment, which happens to be a 
licensed backhaul and Cisco router.  Even more so once they figure out that the 
only thing the call center can do for them is open a ticket that you won't see 
until the morning.  One way to address that is make the first step in the 
troubleshooting guide: "look at one of their monthly invoices, if it's greater 
than $500 then stop here and call our cell phones until we wake up".

All that said, it's better to have a warm body on the phone who can shield you 
from dumb problems.  If nothing else, pay them per incident and only send them 
the overnight calls. 



On 2/4/2016 12:23 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

  interesting, i anticipated lower level tech, more sales. sounds even better 
with actual tech support

  On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:16 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

    I’m trying to imagine having the phones covered 24/7 for awhile and then 
taking it away after the night owls and lonely hearts get used to being able to 
call in the middle of the night.  Call center support must be a one-way street, 
you can’t go back.

    Because customers can accept being treated like dirt, but don’t ever give 
them something nice and then try to take it back.


    From: Jeremy 
    Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 10:54 PM
    To: [email protected] 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Call center pricing

    Yep, $24K a year.  They will do some basic sales, but you have to realize 
that these are tech support guys...they aren't really salesmen.  They are 
willing to answer some questions, and will schedule an install when someone 
calls in and says "I want to be installed on X day"...but when the customer 
needs to 'be sold' don't expect any big numbers.   

    Still, when you add it up.  1,000 customers at $2,000 a month...you will 
never hire ONE employee at minimum wage to answer your calls at that rate.  Not 
to mention that employee will only work 8 hours a day.  This route, you end up 
with a call center that has 15 or 20 techs that can take calls simultaneously, 
and it runs 24 hours.  If you can't tell I've already sold myself and am 
working on switching right now.

    On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:11 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
<[email protected]> wrote:

      so for 1k customers youd be looking at 24k per year? 

      whats a 2 dollar service get you? basic tier 1 tech support (powercycle 
and a ticket)? basic billing stuff, take payments under specific circumstance, 
and a ticket? Presales info?

      On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 10:08 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote:

        $2.00 per customer per month.  

        On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 8:28 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
<[email protected]> wrote:

          what kind of dough gets paid for call centers capable of answering 
our industries phones? 


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