One mile in metro can be very expensive.  

From: Craig Schmaderer 
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 1:53 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] NLOS shot in 11 ghz, would you do it?

Gino, cant you just run fiber? Only a mile with a high mrc fiber seems like an 
easy payback.  But because you are willing to try the 11ghz link it must not be 
an option.  


Craig schmaderer
Skywave Wireless, Inc.





On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 11:27 AM -0800, "Jon Langeler" 
<[email protected]> wrote:


6Ghz and a chainsaw 


Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

On Feb 16, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]> wrote:


  trees are in the way.  Customer requested 500 mbps...

  On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 1:35 PM, Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote:

    I don't think you can license it if it's NLOS, you can probably get away 
with licensing it nLOS (a tree in the path) but I think even that is a no no. 

    I for sure wouldn't do -68 because your receiver sensitivity for the higher 
QAMs is usually around -70ish.  Since you are in a heavy rain zone that's 
pretty much a no-go.

    What kind of obstacles make it a NLOS shot?  How much bandwidth do you need 
to push?

    -Sean


    On Tuesday, February 16, 2016, Gino Villarini <[email protected]> wrote:

      We have a customer requiring a high mrc link.  its a NLOS shot of 1 mile. 

      We did a test with a pair of SAF cfip106 in 11 ghz with a 2' dish on one 
end and 3' on the other.

      Tx power at 19 db

      rssi came in at -68 ( about 30db loss)

      Would you do it? 

      Im worried about loss during rain (wet leaves)

      5 ghz could be an option but the tower is crowded at 5 ghz



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