Have y'all been visiting Colorado??? lol -Sean
On Wednesday, February 17, 2016, George Skorup <[email protected]> wrote: > Jenna said what!? > > :) > > On 2/17/2016 10:13 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > Yes, but lacking a certain je ne sais quoi. > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > On 2/17/2016 7:31 PM, George Skorup wrote: > > +1 Almost Steve Jones quality. :) > > On 2/17/2016 9:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Very poetic. > > *From:* Josh Luthman > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:37 PM > *To:* [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz > > > No I mean they're on the back of a turtle who only has one flipper left > and blind in one eye. Still no ETA. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Feb 17, 2016 9:34 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> Wait.. what? Are they going to shit-can the R200? >> >> On 2/17/2016 7:19 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >> >> R200 is 2.4 only and as of today in unknown status land... >> >> R201 is dual band and units available =) >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 8:17 PM, David Milholen < >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >> >>> Dual band R200P.. One and done :) >>> Or if all wireless inside use E400 from Cnpilot line. >>> >>> >>> On 2/17/2016 7:05 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: >>> >>> Not just cheep devices, PlayStation4 is 2.4 only :-/ >>> >>> On Wednesday, February 17, 2016, Eric Kuhnke < >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>> [email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>> >>>> Until customers complain their stuff doesn't work, a lot of cheap >>>> laptops, tablets and many low to mid range android phones are 2.4 only. >>>> On Feb 17, 2016 4:55 PM, "Rory Conaway" < >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>>> [email protected] >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> If I do this, I’ll probably use 5Ghz for the indoor devices to avoid >>>>> 2.4GHz where possible. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Rory >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Af [mailto: >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] *On Behalf Of >>>>> *Eric Kuhnke >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:15 PM >>>>> *To:* <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>[email protected] >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I should add that in a typical environment with wood frame >>>>> houses/other structures, it helps a lot to choose the 2.4 GHz channel on >>>>> the home WiFi AP for each CPE location, so that none of them overlap with >>>>> your carefully predetermined 10 MHz channel. >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 17, 2016 3:50 PM, "Rory Conaway" < >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I may set up a test for this in couple weeks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Rory >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Af [mailto: >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] *On Behalf Of >>>>> *Eric Kuhnke >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 4:41 PM >>>>> *To:* <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>[email protected] >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2.4 in 10 MHz channels goes through a decent amount of trees within >>>>> 1-2 miles max, if all the CPEs are nanobridge m5-25 dishes or similar >>>>> sized >>>>> reflectors... >>>>> >>>>> I've seen such setups with clients in trees and signals right around >>>>> -69 on both chains. >>>>> >>>>> Not a lot of aggregate capacity per sector however. >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 17, 2016 2:13 PM, "Sean Heskett" < >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>[email protected] >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I've never had any luck with 2.4 going through much more than the side >>>>> of an aspen tree. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> can you set up some 900 test shots? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Rory Conaway < >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> So given this scenario, would 2.4GHz be better? I can use 5GHz inside >>>>> the houses. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Rory >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Af [mailto: >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] *On Behalf Of >>>>> *Chuck McCown >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:57 PM >>>>> *To:* <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>[email protected] >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have not measured one, but if someone has a pine tree nearby and an >>>>> ohm meter, measure the resistance of the needle. Make sure you jam the >>>>> probe into the interior of the thing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am guessing that the water content of the needle absorbs some of the >>>>> RF energy al la a microwave oven. But anecdotal evidence over the past >>>>> 10-15 years has shown that pine trees are worse than others so if the >>>>> needle itself has a fairly low resistance, like 100 ohms, it is acting >>>>> like >>>>> a dipole with a termination resistor. That is really going to suck up the >>>>> signal. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Stealth aircraft have microwave absorbing foam on some of their >>>>> surfaces that operate by similar principles. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Sean Heskett >>>>> >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:13 PM >>>>> >>>>> *To:* <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>[email protected] >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>>>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> the wavelength of 900Mhz is ~33.3cm so a quarter wave length is >>>>> ~8.33cm (~3 1/4 inch). Ponderosa pine needles (and many other pine >>>>> needles) are around the same 3 1/4 inch length >>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinus_ponderosa> >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinus_ponderosa >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> so with water in the needles you have a big 900Mhz RF >>>>> scattering/reflector ;-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Sean >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Sam Lambie < >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> So if you have a minute to please explain how evergreen trees are >>>>> terrible on 900 mhz, I would greatly appreciate it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Chuck McCown < >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>[email protected] >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Ponderosa? Fir? Cedar? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The length of the needles matter. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Rory Conaway >>>>> >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2016 12:51 PM >>>>> >>>>> *To:* <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>[email protected] >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>>>> >>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium 450i 900Mhz >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Realistically, what kind of distances do you get through these types >>>>> of trees? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO* >>>>> >>>>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040* >>>>> >>>>> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>* >>>>> >>>>> * >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>[email protected] >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>* >>>>> >>>>> * <http://www.triadwireless.net>www.triadwireless.net >>>>> <http://www.triadwireless.net>* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> “The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of >>>>> comfort or convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge or >>>>> controversy” – Martin Luther King >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> *Sam Lambie* >>>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech. >>>>> 575-758-7598 Office >>>>> <http://www.Taosnet.com>www.Taosnet.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> >> >> >> >> > > >
