I love those types of wisps and hate them in the same breath LOL
if that makes any sense. Couple reasons I like them is we pick up their
left overs but there is some resentment against the wireless tech as a
whole because they have had a bad taste of a bad Wisp.
I make it my duty to give those customers the best experience and best
performance wireless has to offer. I still have the feeling that most
consensus is that cable or fiber is the true internet connection which
is flawless in every way
because the wireless guys have spotty service,no service, crap service
and customer service is crap as compared to the larger guys that have
all the money.
I love Chucks Stuff just saying really cant find anything to compare
it to.
I also like Forests cool toys also.
What about the CMM,CTM ??? I want my CMM5 poking Cambium LOL
Operating a Pure Canopy to Cambium Wisp has its perks..
We are not going back to sites to replace radios every few months. I
am not having to do weird QOS configs on every router. I am not worried
how consistent the latency is from one area to another.
I can wake up each morning and roll out to the office and plan our next
move. We dont have a 30 techs running all over the place trying to
figure out to do.
We may have 1 or 2 service calls a day with 4 to 5 new installs
daily. Everything just works and works they way I expect it should not
guessing at every turn.
In short I sleep good at night.
Im done rambling LOL
On 2/25/2016 7:49 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
It doesn't sound like you have spent much time with public safety
types. I have never met one that wouldn't rather try something free,
even if it is obvious it wouldn't work.
Jamie asked the question of PS types, not vendors.
But, your evaluation of the issues involved in system failure doesn't
seem to be based on any real familiarity with the systems, their
users, or the process by which they procure them.
I am really confused. There seems to be some disconnect between the
WISP profession and every other one. By the logic presented to date,
every WISP here is not nearly as good as a bunch of people who take no
money for their service and just do this part time from whatever they
cobble together from Best Buy. Obviously nobody should ever pay Brian
to map anything since being paid to do a job obviously precludes him
from doing it well. You damn sure should never buy a product from
somebody like Chuck who spends great amounts of time engineering and
testing them and is obviously qualified. Oh wait, he gets paid, damn,
and I thought his stuff was so good till I realized he got paid for them.
I just don't get it. Are your professions exempt or maybe you don't
understand the problems like you think you do?
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016, 7:18 PM Brian Webster <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
One of the big reasons amateur radio systems tend to stay on line
when all others fail is due to the simple fact that the amateur
radio operators build and maintain their own networks. Public
Safety Systems rely on commercial contractors to maintain and
repair their systems. The agencies rarely have any good
understanding of their systems when there is an outage and
therefore they don’t have ways to overcome the problems. They deal
with this by pouring a lot of money in to redundant and backup
systems. In large scale disasters these commercial repair
contracts get spread thin real fast and have soo many problems to
fix all at the same time.
Amateur radio systems have been put together with more creative
solutions that cost little to nothing because it’s an
all-volunteer effort. When things break they don’t just throw
money at the problem to fix it.
Jamie, the reason you don’t hear talk of amateur radio systems as
shows like you are at is because they provide services for almost
free, that does not sell equipment and services for the commercial
vendors. I am not saying public safety systems should not have
backup systems in place mind you, just stating the obvious that
may not be so obvious to most. If you were selling stuff to make a
living would you tell a potential client how to not purchase what
you are offering? Do you see the cable companies showing consumers
how to get free off the air TV?
Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
www.Broadband-Mapping.com <http://www.Broadband-Mapping.com>
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 24, 2016 11:34 PM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show
Yes as in anything we have good and not so good...my point was
that HAM folks have had systems operating when no one else did and
it makes sense that emergency agencies have knowledge and
relationship with local folks just in case your state of the art
system fails. Look at how thinking out of the box saved
astronauts way back then...or poor analogy...when UFC first came
out...all these high rank black belts got whooped by skinny
juijitsu guy....now they have adapted and evolved...same thing to
me...fuck the politics... make it work. Period
On Feb 24, 2016 8:46 PM, "Colin Stanners" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Well it's true there's a huge variety of people and experience in
the ham community, it's certain there will be some that suck, and
so it's a risk getting involved without good research first.
But in general, they - or I should say us hams- have a very nice
combination of tower sites, active hardware, spare hardware, RF
knowledge and eagerness for community service so as to respond
rapidly in any situation.
I just hope more hams will evolve from old voice / kilobit-speed
packet networks to new 2.3 / 5.9ghz IP systems so as to keep
pushing boundaries and advancing the hobby.
On Feb 24, 2016 9:00 PM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I'm guessing Lewis and one or two others have had some sort of bad
dealing with a HAM and now hate the all forever for any
impractical reason.
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*From: *"Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent: *Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:33:56 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Tessco Show
FirstNet is a joke. Hardly anyone has reached DHS' level 6
interoperability and they are going to replace all that hardware
at a cost by some estimates of over $10 billion.There have been
several hair brained schemes to pay for it but nobody has proposed
a plan that is likely to succeed. The only viable option seems to
let the carriers do it. Great, just what we need: a public safety
system with all the reliability of our cell systems.
Back on the HAM topic huh? The reason they don't like running
exercises with them is that they are a crap shoot. Some are great,
some are complete jokes. Nobody wants to be graded with the
wildcard in the mix.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 5:34 PM Jaime Solorza
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
well I attended some interesting sessions. The Public safety
one had several speakers from industry , gov't and academia...
Learned allot and will share some important items later but I
asked a question that really caught them off guard.....there
was no mention of any testing or work on their disaster
scenarios which involved HAM radio guys. One of the members
acknowledged that during Katrina and Bastrop emergencies...the
HAM radio network was the only available in many places and
then asked why they never mentioned using 4.9 GHz but only 2.4
and 5GHz...mu ch more to come about First Net and testing to
be done on dangerous border.....Canada and US is April.
Lots of stuff to share and some new antenna players I never
saw before.
Met Sakid Ahmed from Cambium and chatted for an hour
...learned some cool things..
Well late lunch and Tecate beckons....chime in later,,,,,talk
amongst yourselves..topic is LMR over IP and IoT....
laters
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390 <tel:915-861-1390>
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