Don’t know how much power it would take to wipe out a receiver front end at a distance.
(I am sure I have told this story before) I knew a USAF Radar tech. DEW Line Search/Fire Control related Radar. Had a very large dish and very fast servos to move it. It was a scanning type of setup. Really powerful stuff. Local police decided to use the driveway to the radar site as a parking spot for a local speed trap. After some of the Airmen got a ticket, somebody decided to aim the dish (inside a huge radome, like a 40 footer or something like that) at he cop car. They pinged him a couple of times. Then watched. Nothing happened right at first. Then he started the car and drove away never to return. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 3:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FW: [WISPA Members] FCC complaints Those Ukranian guys on Youtube with the magnetron on a stick were looking for funding. Maybe a magnetron + an old C-band dish? Chuck, will your Accu-aim work with that? From: Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 3:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FW: [WISPA Members] FCC complaints I have never seen any law enforcement agency yet help out in these cases. With the FCC they assume you live in a glass house and come down on whoever is filing the complaint pretty hard and first before they check out the complaint. I think they want to teach everyone a lesson that you should not file complaints. I have “heard” that a stun gun applied to his cat 5 cables at his AP site does interesting things... so I’ve been told... (Actually the stun gun story came from a competitor to Diebold. They would go around town and hit the keypads of all the Diebold ATMs). From: Rory Conaway Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 12:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AFMUG] FW: [WISPA Members] FCC complaints From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Burnham Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 2:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] FCC complaints Ken, I wish. To add fuel to the fire, when I was on the tower that he took ownership of I had asked him if I could put 3.65 on the tower when it comes available. So to give you an idea, that's how long ago this started. When manufacturers started selling the kits w/AP and few clients, he secretly bought one and put it up himself. That was the first writing on the wall, of what was to come. So, he took the 3.65 and I stayed with 900/2.4/5.8. Eventually he figured out he couldn't do too much with only 3.65 and one tower. On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: Do you have an NN license so you could operate in 3.65 GHz at that tower? Preferably using equipment approved for the upper 25 MHz. It will be more expensive, but will make it non trivial for him to interfere. Leave the 2.4 or 5 GHz AP so he still thinks that he’s jamming you? From: Jeff Burnham Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 12:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] FCC complaints Yes, in this case it's intentional. He acquired a tower I leased space on, then soon decided he would become a Wisp. Kicked me off and stole my gear. I moved to another tower down the road. So, geographically it goes - his tower, my tower, his house. On the side his house is on, he jams me. last year, by aiming a high power ubnt radio at me causing my AP to no longer hear the clients.. they can hear me fine, but AP is saturated by his signal. So I did screen captures to show how he would follow me channel to channel, typically at night when we were at home and clients were online. So we got a bad name and lost customers off that tower. Meanwhile, his service is OK because we're not reciprocating and he then picks up our angry customers - a type of reward you might say. Anyway, our legal battle has been escalating, his lawyer said local court has no jurisdiction, only FCC. That's why we went FCC, to keep from fighting about 'who' has jurisdiction and then move on. Currently that posses two problems. 1) FCC seems more interested in what we're doing vs our compliant (surprised?) 2) he's moved on from ubnt radios to some sort of true jammer. My AP no longer sees device MAC/SSID/Dev Name. Only thing I see is signal on airview, which overlaps my 20mhz wide channel. Not knowing how jammers work, features and such, we're king of clueless how to prove anything now. All I know at this point, it's smart whatever it is. The second I kill the AP, or move it to diff channel, the signal also ceases. It's like it's looking for my MAC or SSID. Follows us around, at night, just like before. But as to who and why? He's a jerk for one, it's his nature. Secondly, in case I didn't already mention, I hired a helicopter to follow the signal from our tower to it's source - video taping it. Proving it come from his house, which he previously denied. After that, it became "malfunctioning gear".. It's at that time it went from a ubnt radio that I could track via MAC, to nothing but RF that's only on when my AP is on. On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 11:38 AM, alex phillips <[email protected]> wrote: Right, I agree but in this case, it was easy, Hotels said they had this thing they thought was ok to do but the FCC said it was not. In Jeff's case, he would need his neighbor to say, yes I am doing this thing before the FCC can step in. I think proving this is going to be hard. Alex Phillips CEO and General Manager RBNS.net HighSpeedLink.net WISPA.org Board of Directors (2011-2016) WISPA President (2015-2016) 540-908-3993 On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Aaron Seelye <[email protected]> wrote: Intentionally screwing with a legit service for whatever personal gain is still looked upon poorly by the FCC. http://fortune.com/2015/11/04/fcc-hotels-wifi-blocking/ On 3/2/16 9:23 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: > That's what I was thinking. I don't see how their stuff can work well > if they are intentionally putting it on the same channel as Jeffs stuff. > > Seth Mattinen wrote: >> On 3/2/16 8:42 PM, Dan Harling wrote: >>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Jeff Burnham <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Have a nasty neighbor that blocks our signal. Follows us around as we >>>> change >>>> channels... >>> If you can't get any legal traction, turnabout is fair play. A couple >>> countermeasure ideas: >>> >>> 1) Point a second radio & antenna directly at your friendly neighbor >>> as a decoy; then switch your real one to a different channel & SSID. >>> >>> 2) If that isn't enough, find a location much (much!) closer to his >>> antenna where you can set up a second decoy, and demonstrate the >>> meaning of EIRP. >>> >> The nasty neighbor probably isn't trying to use it for any other purpose >> than to cause interference. >> >> ~Seth >> _______________________________________________ >> Members mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Members mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members > _______________________________________________ Members mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members _______________________________________________ Members mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members -- Jeff Burnham Burnham Investments LLC [email protected] 405-834-3850 cell - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sooner Wireless LLC 405-309-WIFI (9434) www.soonerwireless.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1300 12 Avenue SE Suite 236 Norman OK 73071 For sales, contact [email protected] For support, contact [email protected] For billing, contact mailto:[email protected] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Members mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members _______________________________________________ Members mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members -- Jeff Burnham Burnham Investments LLC [email protected] 405-834-3850 cell - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sooner Wireless LLC 405-309-WIFI (9434) www.soonerwireless.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 1300 12 Avenue SE Suite 236 Norman OK 73071 For sales, contact [email protected] For support, contact [email protected] For billing, contact mailto:[email protected]
