1) You get what you pay for, and part of what you are paying for is customer service. See if UBNT will jump on here and interact with a customer like Forest does. 2) Never hurts to buy USA made equipment. 3) Commodity stuff that arrives on a container will NEVER be the same quality as small lots individually hand tested by the people that have designed and built them. 4) Almost everyone on here is a small business. Nice to support small businesses.
From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 1:52 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync It's hard for me to compete with the ubnt and netonix products, mainly because of volume differences. There are also some key design and customer RMA philosophy differences which increase costs - I really don't feel like it's right to cut corners which significantly decrease reliability, and then refuse to warranty products because the design was damaged by static, or a short, or similar - all of which should be survivable. High-current lightning strikes? Maybe not... Like you pointed out though I think I'm in the right price range, especially If I can do a better job of describing the differences here. I also am working hard on getting that price down. On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Peter Kranz <[email protected]> wrote: 18 ports sounds reasonable to me, it will fit the needs to most any site. I could see myself buying 2 units and stacking them such that 50% of my APs were connected to unit #1 and 50% connected to unit #2. On pricing, if you don’t require sync, this unit would somewhat compete with the UBNT EdgeSwitch, ES-16-150W, that unit is $300 for 16 24V and PoE+ ports. But it does lack several features you provide. The alternative Netonix WS-12-400AC is $399.95 So the $800 price is a great deal compared to the CTM-2 product, but about double the UBNT and Netonix competitor. I think the uplift from $400 to $800 would be worth it if it supported more voltage standards than the UBNT product, and provided redundant power options that both of those devices lacked. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207-0000 [email protected] From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 11:41 AM To: af <[email protected]> Subject: [AFMUG] RackMount PacketFlux PowerInjector+Sync Well, it looks like it might actually be finally happening. We are about 98% sure we have a rackmount enclosure manufacturer which we can work with. Domestic. Product looks decent. Price is right. Which means it's time to nail down a few details here, such as number of ports, so I can get some enclosures cut and boards made and hopefully get this elephant out of the room.... So I need some input: The rough figures I'm working with here is $800 for a 18 port rackmount power injector. Voltage and pinning jumper selectable per port. Per-port control of power and sync. Probably some redundant power and other things built in, but I'm still nailing those details down (a lot of it comes down to space on the front panel of the enclosure). PLEASE NOTE: The prices here are soft - until I get the design completed I won't know what I can sell this for - as many of you know I try to price things at a fair price as opposed to what the market will bear. The main questions I have for the list are: Is 18 the correct number of ports? 18 is looking like about the most I can fit based on front panel dimensions. This corresponds to 3 blocks of 6 ports (if you lose a port and need to replace it, you'd replace 6 at a time). Other options are 16 (4 blocks of 4), and pretty much any smaller quantities of ports which are divisible by 4 or 6. I guess what I'm really asking here is whether the 18 port version for $800 is the only version of this I should make or carry, or does it make sense to sell (as an example) an 8 port version for $400 instead of or in addition to this? -- Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc. Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 [email protected] | http://www.packetflux.com -- Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc. Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 [email protected] | http://www.packetflux.com
