funny man.  funny funny man.   I'm OK with Paul where he is. :)
Maybe Frank Underwood....oh wait, he's a Dem... lol

I've pretty much put off my House of Cards until April 15.  I don't see
me having much time until then...

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jaime Solorza 
  To: Animal Farm 
  Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 5:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan


  The videos were edited...guys who did it facing charges in Houston. That said 
I am anti abortion.  As a Catholic but more as a caring human being.

  Many gay couples are good parents...and some stay together longer than 
traditional couples.... we need better parenting.....its hard for parents to 
compete with all the electronics that our children can see and hear.  I get 
upset that one of grandsons is allowed to watch Walking Dead crap.  He is 
4....when they are here I make sure they don't watch crap like that...even Nick 
has stupid cartoons.   I digress.... too many people having kids that have no 
idea of what it takes.... 

  Why dont  you GOPers get Ryan to run?  Oh wait... he said no!    Too 
easy....sorry.. OK how about Mitt?  Oops my bad..

  On Mar 13, 2016 4:41 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <[email protected]> wrote:


    Yah, i'm kind of like Chuck here.

    I don't care about gay marriage.  I'm not gay, I know a handful of gay 
people.  Not my cup of tea but the government doesn't have any right telling 
them what they can or can't do.

    Same with adoption for a gay couple - shut up gov'mt.   Now, I'm not so 
sure on that.  When I was growing up there were few gay couples who had "come 
out" and we thought if the girl had a different last name than her mommy we 
thought that was odd.  Quite a bit different now but it could still screw with 
a kids head in terms of "traditional marriage".

    It would be hard to NOT state that traditional marriage has gone to hell in 
this country.  But then again, so many "traditional" things have gone to hell.  
How many women stay at home and take care of the family while dad goes to work?

    I am in favor of defunding planned parenthood.  The videos pretty much got 
to me.  It's MY TAX DOLLARS.  Defund it.  There are plenty of other 
non-government-funded entities who can do that work.

    Any tax is bad :)

    I'm going to stop there, i will get in trouble... lol




      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Josh Reynolds 
      To: [email protected] 
      Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 5:02 PM
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan


      His stances:
      Gay marriage is wrong
      He doesn't support adoption for a gay couple
      Defund planned parenthood
      Raising corporate tax is bad
      Voted yes for more sentencing and prosecution for juveniles.
      Wants to drill in ANWR
      Voted no on tax credits for renewable energy.
      Voted no on 4 weeks paid parental leave for federal employees.
      Votes for PATRIOT act over and over
      Voted to allow warantless electronic surveillance against us citizens
      Denied additional funding that would provide expanded child healthcare
      "Let's build a fence!"
      Voted NO on reporting / deporting illegal immigrants who received 
hospital treatment

      Etc. A few things I like him on, but mostly he's a "nope" for me.

      On Mar 13, 2016 4:46 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:

        Hey, I said I liked him.  Just not full on man crush.

        I didn’t see how his math added up for the budgets he proposed.  There 
were some missing pages where magic happened to balance the budget.  Seemed 
like the same old voodoo economics.

        So “man crush”, is that like Trump and Putin?  At least Putin is 
supposedly an 8th degree black belt.  He would probably take care of the 
protester himself.  If Trump thinks he can bully the Putins of the world, I’m 
not so sure.  I think McCain could take him in a fair fight.  Hell, Bernie 
could probably take him.  I was never fond of Nixon, but the photo of the 
“kitchen debate” with Khrushchev is a treasure.
        http://spectator.org/articles/41740/how-handle-bully-nixon-vs-khrushchev



        From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
        Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 4:19 PM
        To: [email protected] 
        Subject: [AFMUG] Paul Ryan


        I have actually followed Paul Ryan since the first time he appeared on 
the national stage.  Very impressed with him.  Could almost call him my "man 
crush".   I'd be interested in hearing what you do not like about him Ken.

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Ken Hohhof 
          To: [email protected] 
          Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 2:04 PM
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump's Supporters Love Him Even More 
AfterChicago Violence

          I think the "establishment" is missing why people are fed up with 
them, I'm 
          not convinced it's about left or right.  If I had to single out one 
person 
          as the poster boy for why the establishment has failed us, it would 
be Mitch 
          McConnell.  All 4 leaders in Congress have only been worried about 
their own 
          power and re-election, but McConnell is the worst of a bad bunch.

          I don't agree with Paul Ryan's economics or some of his politics, but 
I like 
          what he has said since being elected Speaker.  I would like to see if 
they 
          are just words, or if he would translate them into actions.  I don't 
think 
          we will get to find out, election politics seem to have rendered him 
          irrelevant.  And Mitch the Turtle would have to be replaced with 
someone 
          actually interested in governing.  I wonder what conservative goals 
could 
          have been accomplished in the 7 years Mitch has spent trying to make 
Obama 
          fail no matter how much damage it causes.  Tort reform?  
Modifications to 
          Obamacare?  Fix sequestration?  Tax reform?  Immigration reform?  
Mitch 
          doesn't care.  Mitch cares about Mitch.  That's the problem with the 
          establishment, they spend all their effort on getting elected and 
staying in 
          power, they don't even pretend to do their job.  And let me be clear, 
I'm 
          not saying Pelosi, Reid and Boehner were much better, it's just 
McConnell is 
          the most blatant hack of the bunch, every time I see him on TV I feel 
he is 
          giving me the finger.

          I am probably fooling myself that Paul Ryan would be different, but I 
don't 
          think we'll find out.


          -----Original Message----- 
          From: Bill Prince
          Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 1:40 PM
          To: [email protected]
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump's Supporters Love Him Even More 
After 
          Chicago Violence

          IMO, Obama moved right, and the Republicans moved further to the 
right.

          bp
          <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

          On 3/13/2016 6:01 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
          > Obama moved right as much as the Republicans moved left. 
Everybody's idea 
          > of compromise these days is you come to where I am and I'll make a 
deal.

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