I was doing an over-the-top mash up of ISIS and refugees.  He said not to allow 
Muslims into the country.  He said he would kill the families of ISIS.  Like I 
said, I was being hyperbolic.  Just like him.  

ISIS is like cancer.  The kind that spreads when you cut it out.  Kill one and 
make 10 more.  The immune systems of the Islamic nations needs to be fortified 
to do the work from within.  Just like the current batch of immunotherapies, 
the are proving very effective against cancer.  

From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:54 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

you disappoint me chuck. he never said muslims, he said isis, kind of a slight 
difference there. You took the spoon and drank the koolaid with it, might as 
well just drink from the cup :-) 

And seriously, with isis (which is kind of a family affair) you realistically 
do need to eliminate three generations to even begin to address the issue. That 
applies to anyone though who believes in what they teach their offspring, that 
was taught to them by their parents.

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

  Trump would be slightly more palatable if he stuck to his positions.  He will 
say something like “kill all Muslims and their familes”  one week and the next 
transition to “waterboard all Muslims”, then “soften” it due to his extreme 
“flexibility” to “we need skilled Muslims”...

  Ok, being hyperbolic myself here but not too far off the mark on Isis, Syrian 
refugees, the wall and H1B.  A Trump apologist might suggest that this proves 
he can learn and pivot.  I think he is the ultimate lying politician.  He just 
does not have the experience with the media tracking every word he has ever 
said or will say.  The others are a bit more chary and street-wise.  

  I am not sure an outsider in Washington has a chance of being effective at 
anything.  At least not for the first few years.  Especially for a president.  
Like saying a walk on (having never played - even in high school) in the NFL 
can play QB and score in the super bowl.  It will never happen.  

  From: Bill Prince 
  Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:38 AM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

  I would say that Trump is about the last person that I would vote for 
anything. Starting at dog catcher. There are a few others I would put into the 
same category. Cruz & Carson would be on the list as "not fit for dog catcher".


bp
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On 3/21/2016 9:30 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:

    It's funny that everyone says "You can't say that and win"... yet Utah has 
voted Republican for the last 10 elections (40 years). I think it's a lot like 
Idaho, that many people check the first "Republican" box on the first page, and 
never turn the book to even see who that is or what they even stand for.

    Do you really think if Trump wins the nomination that Utah would vote for 
Hillary over Trump? A woman as President, in a state of 50% Mormon, where they 
don't allow women to hold any real leadership positions?

    Trump knows he has Utah and Idaho because they have voted Red for the last 
40 years.

    Travis


    On 3/21/2016 10:13 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

      Would  you want a new CEO of a WISP to be hired from the auto insurance 
industry or perhaps a retired school principal?  

      IMO A chief executive should have some experience with the legislative 
process and some military experience.  
      Foreign policy experience would be something I would look for on a 
resume.  

      Trump has been saying that he doesn’t really mean or believe some of the 
hyperbolic things that have came out of his mouth. 

      I know  the Lt. Gov fairly well here in Utah.  His family are 100 year 
ILEC owners.  Have known them for years.  
      This is what he said after the Trump speech:

      "I need to say this, OK, ...and last night Donald Trump did something and 
said something that I never thought I'd see a candidate for president do and 
say, especially someone in the Republican Party."
      "Think about that for a second," Cox told the crowd. "A person running 
for office, in our party, thinks it's OK that if you question his politics, he 
can question your religion. I have a message for the 3 million people in Utah 
for Mr. Donald Trump: That's not how we roll in Utah, and that's not how we 
roll in the United States of America."


      From: Travis Johnson 
      Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:01 AM
      To: [email protected] 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

      It's time for a change... that's the bottom line. Everyone else running 
is a "lifer"... someone that has been in politics or has wanted to be, their 
entire life. Nobody else is going to make any REAL changes. It's time for 
something different. 

      It's also refreshing to have someone say what they REALLY think... 
instead of giving lip service for six months before the election, and then 
having them not do anything that they said. At least Trump is saying what he 
thinks.

      Travis


      On 3/21/2016 9:24 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

        He may be super smart and has ideas that really could be good for the 
country.
        He may be a super skilled negotiator.  He may be lots of things.

        He looks like a megalomaniac bully that has no social graces.  I don’t 
care if he was running for the local chamber of commerce, you just cannot act 
like that if you want to represent me and my interests.  

        From: Jaime Solorza 
        Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 9:20 AM
        To: Animal Farm 
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

        Even some Mennonite folks I spoke with in Cauthemoc think Trump is bad 
for US. 

        On Mar 21, 2016 9:07 AM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> wrote:

          Trump questioned Romney's faith.  Not something you do in Utah.  

          And Romney is a special case.  He came in and turned around the 
winter Olympics here and really saved the day.    
          Kinda a favorite son.

          From: Kurt Fankhauser 
          Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 8:47 AM
          To: [email protected] 
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah

          What happened on Friday?

          Sent from my iPhone 

          Kurt Fankhauser
          Wavelinc Communications
          P.O. Box 126
          Bucyrus, OH 44820
          http://www.wavelinc.com
          tel. 419-562-6405
          fax. 419-617-0110

          On Mar 20, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:


            Latest polls in Utah show:
            Utah, collectively, votes “anyone but Trump”.  
            (Things were not looking great for him but he really shot his own 
dick off on Friday).

            Polls now show, if Trump is the other candidate, he loses.  
            No matter if it is Hillary, Bernie, Ted...  

            Gotta love Utah!










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