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Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 8:24 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> The best way to avoid problems with DFS is to use another sub-band, I don’t 
> think any gear is going to be problem free at all locations, it’s a crap 
> shoot.  Do you have non DFS sub-bands at the low end of 5 GHz available where 
> you are?
>  
> I want to go back in a time machine and terminate whoever came up with the 
> bright idea that DFS would allow shared use of spectrum for anything but 
> opportunistic or hobby use, not the Internet which we know is the most 
> important thing in the whole world, more important than food, water and air, 
> and must work reliably 24x7.
>  
>  
> From: Stefan Englhardt
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 5:31 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP rant
>  
> The SMs disconnect from AP and then reconnect. Due to DFS and CAC this is an 
> outage of >60s for the customer.
> Happens on different sites and different Signal levels. Most affected are 
> customers very close which see
> multiple sectors of a cluster. They connect with good signal to the wrong 
> sector once they are kicked from the matching
> sector. But I see this on an omni installation, too.
>  
> I went thru with cambium first level support and stopped this due to time 
> consuming and senseless
> trial and error with every single parameter. We on our own tried different 
> freqencies, changed from synced to flexible mode …
> I dont want to debug any longer.
>  
> On another site I have some gps-issues where an AP droping all clients even 
> within the configured gps holdoff time
> due to loosing gps. It shows more than enough Satellites all day long. So may 
> be an interference issue together
> with a SW-Problem rendering the holdoff time unusable.
> This happens from time to time and gives some angry customers.
>  
> I just lost faith in this gear. It works for most customers but it is 
> outdated once it will work flawless.
>  
> We should have stayed with Mikrotik 11n until UBNT had their AC gear stable 
> enough. Now with 7.2 and
> the newest 8.x Beta this is working very well. We use the Rocket AC PTMP with 
> filtering in 20 MHz Channels which seems
> to be a sweet spot for this gear. Only happy customers so far.
>  
>  
> Von: Af [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Adam Moffett
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. März 2016 11:02
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP rant
>  
> I've been playing with ePMP, but only on a small scale.� What is the 
> symptom of these disconnects?� Is the SM losing connection to the AP, or do 
> you mean something layer3 like dropping TCP connections?
> 
> ....I ask because I want to check if I'm having the same problem and haven't 
> noticed.
> 
> 
> On 3/23/2016 3:23 AM, Stefan Englhardt wrote:
> We pull the plug now on our ePMP installations. We still have disconnects. 
> Every day a disappointed customer calls.
> We dont look at this anymore. We give them a Mikrotik or a UBNT AC to make 
> them happy and take the ePMP SM back.
> �
> We had several problems with SW quality in the past. We had bad SMs we need 
> to RMA. At some time it seems stable. Now problems
> came back. Not sure it is SW or HW. We dont want to bother any longer. This 
> gear is low quality no matter what is said by marketing.
> �
> We go UBNT AC now. Blazing fast webinterface, background channel scan and 
> more speed on 20MHz Channels. Everywhere we use it
> we have much better results than with ePMP. These ePMP fans want to tell 11ac 
> is not needed as 256QAM is never achievable.
> we see it at most of our installed cpes. If signal is to weak for 256QAM 
> there are cheap dish-cpes.
> �
>  

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