I think they have two versions of powerwall?
One that floats as backup mostly, and another that is solar fed and drains many 
cycles?
Would those be two diferent battery types in them then?

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 9:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla 7kWh powerwall as UPS?

The thing is...  Calculating lead acid batteries as 30 or 15 cents per kWh to 
purchase doesn't take into account lifecycle cost. If the lead acid batteries 
are only good for 800 to 1000 cycles, absolute maximum, and the competing 
battery option is twice as expensive but lasts for 4000 or 5000 cycles, the 
more expensive option actually costs a great deal less.
It remains to be seen whether the powerwall will really hold up to thousands of 
cycles.

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 8:45 PM, Chuck McCown 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
7/5=1.4 hours at full load.

Batts are about 30 cents per watt hour for AGM, half that for flooded cells.
Inverters are about 25 cents per watt.

7kWh battery == $1125 –$2250
5 kW inverter == $1250
Put it on your critical loads.   Charge the batts with a rectifier that is fed 
from commercial power.
You can run the inverter all the time, or use a smaller charger and put in a 
transfer switch.
Transfer switches/contactors are not very expensive.  One single relay will do 
the job.

From: Eric Kuhnke<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 7:45 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [AFMUG] Tesla 7kWh powerwall as UPS?

$3000 is not so bad for something that can deliver up to 5kW for multiple 
hours...

http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/09/tesla-powerwall-home-installations-are-starting-for-pilot-customers/
I am interested to see the results of integrating two of these in parallel with 
an off grid solar array. At first glance it appears a great deal less expensive 
than buying a dozen 12V 200Ah lead acid AGM batteries to make a string. And 
should last a lot longer in 60% cycle depth daily cyclic use.

Interesting they've cancelled the 10kWh model ($3500) which had a much shorter 
lifespan, the 7kW model is rated at 5000 cycles.

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