Yes but I don’t know anyone making agile filters for this freq.  I did it at 
450MHz 30 years ago with a stepper on a duplexer.  

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 6:57 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

Could a filter have a mechanical lever or switch to change the frequency it 
passes?  If so, you could do it with a servo.
Maybe nobody would pay what that would cost I guess.


On 3/24/2016 9:00 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  An external filter ahead of the RX amp should help.  AFAIK, nobody has yet 
invented a good front end filter that is not mechanical and somewhat fixed.  
Hard to do that with software.  

  From: George Skorup 
  Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 6:50 PM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i

  Seriously!? It doesn't need it. The have an electronic, software controlled 
filter built into the radio. The only thing you'd be doing with external fixed 
bandpass filters is shaping the Tx output. The 450 radios have a pretty damn 
clean Tx signal as is, which is one reason why you can stack channels with zero 
guard band.


  On 3/24/2016 7:01 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

    Has anyone experimented with inserting a notch filter on a 450i 900 AP, for 
a specific 7 MHz?


    All of the options I can find are for a wider 900 band, more than a 
specific 7-10 MHz section, and cost $150+ a piece, so you're adding $300 and 
some jumpers and 0.5dB insertion loss.



    On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> 
wrote:

      Unless Yogi Bear is monitoring BooBoo with a baby monitor, in this 
particular location, I think I’m okay.



      Rory 



      From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Skorup
      Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 1:40 PM
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i



      Dude, there's interference everywhere in the 900 band. Cordless phones, 
baby monitors, security systems, smart meters, SCADA.. and the list goes on.

      On 3/24/2016 11:23 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:

        Are you talking about interference on the same tower or with other 
towers or devices.  I don’t think I’ll have interference issues from other 
sources.



        Rory



        From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Skorup
        Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:29 PM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i



        If you do 6 sectors, you're using the entire band and have nowhere to 
go when one or two sectors is experiencing interference. Or you have to drop 
down to 5MHz channel bandwidth which sucks. This is why we do 4x90 clusters. 
Two channels with wiggle room. Of course that's FSK's 8MHz channel width. I 
think a lot of people have found that 7MHz on the 450i works best.

        On 3/24/2016 12:11 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:

          No, I’m not complaining, I’ll use them.  I’ll figure out how to hide 
them.  Still trying to figure out the deployment strategy on a typical tower.  
I have some learnin’ to do.



          Rory



          From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
          Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:08 PM
          To: af
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i



          Well, if you want small... there's these, I'm not sure I'd want to 
try doing channel re-use with them though.

          http://itelite.net/en/Katalog/900-MHz//SEC-XL0911DP.html



          On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11:35 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> 
wrote:

          Any 900 sector is going to be huge....



          On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 9:28 PM, Rory Conaway 
<[email protected]> wrote:

          I’m specifically interested in the 900Mhz, I thought that was the 
450i, I didn’t know it covered 5.8GHz also.    I also need maximum bandwidth 
off the tower although I don’t know tower or other mounting locations yet to 
determine if I need 360 degrees.  I actually have more problems with aesthetics 
and those antennas are going to be an issue due to the size.  Right now I’m 
interested in throughput per antenna and what kind of throughput to expect with 
GPS.



          Rory



          From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brandon Yuchasz
          Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 9:02 PM


          To: [email protected]
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i



          If you guys are talking about the 900mhz 450i 65 degree. Straight 
from the horse’s mouth is the 65 and the 90 are the same antenna. Just more 
role off to achieve the 90.  I have tested it outside of the 65 degree but 
within the 90. I was not happy with the results. One customer had to be put 
back onto FSK yesterday until we can get another AP up or a true 90 degree. 
Just would not modulate up and finally dropped off completely. 





          Best regards,

          Brandon Yuchasz

          GogebicRange.net

          www.gogebicrange.net



          From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
          Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 10:10 PM
          To: [email protected]
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450i



          There's an OEM 90*...

          Josh Luthman
          Office: 937-552-2340
          Direct: 937-552-2343
          1100 Wayne St
          Suite 1337
          Troy, OH 45373

          On Mar 23, 2016 11:06 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

          I looked at the 450i and noticed the sector antenna is 65 degrees.  
Does that mean a typical tower installation uses 6 antennas?  In that scenario, 
I’m assuming 10MHz channels if there is no interference.  In that scenario, 
what is the available bandwidth per AP assuming most users get pretty good 
signal.  Or is there a better way to deploy the product?



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