I ran into this issue on the download side a couple times, when you rate
limit at the Canopy SM and twice the limit is hitting the AP the customer
WILL COMPLAIN about extreamly slow download speeds and high latency. I
confirmed this with one customer and its painfully slow. I had to induce
the rate limit somewhere before the AP so that the SM wouldn't be choking
so bad.

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 8:11 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]> wrote:

> That's the way it works. SM controls the uplink, AP controls the downlink.
> The same thing happens in reverse with streaming. Torching a customer might
> show he's pulling 15-18Mbps download when in fact the AP is limiting his
> downlink to 12Mbps per the configured QoS and discarding the extra garbage.
> Because you're looking at what's happening downstream of where the
> throttling is taking place. That's what I see all the time with the
> streaming crap. And we use only the built-in QoS on Canopy.
>
> So in your situation, yes, if you set the customer's SM QoS to throttle at
> 2Mbps sustained uplink, then you will see only 2Mbps exiting the AP's
> ethernet interface for that customer. At least you keep that extra crap off
> of the air. And it's not cosmetic, that's real traffic over the air. Which
> seems totally stupid when that's not how TCP was intended to work. Sure,
> everyone just go ahead and mangle the protocols however you want. It's like
> the DDoS bullshit. I'm fucking tired of it. Sorry for my rant.. I'll go
> back to my hole now.
>
> On 3/28/2016 6:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> In this case the SM QoS is set to 5M up, 15M down.� The SM is letting 5M
> through, then the tower router is chopping it down to 2M which is the plan
> he is on.� I may have to set the SM limit lower.� I don�t like to do
> that because the router rate limit is set automatically via PPPoE from the
> RADIUS database, whereas the SM limits are set manually.
>
> �
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *George Skorup
> *Sent:* Monday, March 28, 2016 6:15 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Youtube upload bandwidth
>
> �
>
> Where is your bandwidth control? SM or MikroTik? I'm guessing upstream
> router. If you had it on the SM, you wouldn't see the overload.
>
> On 3/28/2016 6:11 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> I had a customer today uploading for 2 hours at way over his rate limit,
> he says he was uploading a Youtube video.� Anyone here familiar with the
> Youtube upload process?� Why was it not invoking TCP congestion control
> and instead trying to ram 5 pounds of data through a 2 pound pipe?
>
> �
>
>
>

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