I'm sure that works but I'm not going to build an OSPF /30 router-to-router 1 to 10GbE backbone link that looks like:
router -> switch -> fiber riser to roof -> radio -> air -> radio -> fiber riser to roof -> switch -> router introduce a switch in the path between two routers just because? On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 9:12 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote: > You don't do it on a router, you bond it with a switch and do the > layer 4 hashing on it's ASIC, then uplink it via SFP+.to your router. > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am not aware of any notable backbone-ready router platform (something > that > > speaks BGP+OSPF+MPLS, takes full tables and can carry multiple VRFs) that > > does layer-4 hashing in ASICs/hardware... Routers are not intended to > be > > load balancers. > > > > It's not a microwave problem, the same issue is seen if you portchannel > two > > 1Gbps fiber connections between routers. > > > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> That's not exactly true, it depends on the hashing method. If your > >> equipment can do Layer 4 hashing, then you absolutely can maximize the > >> aggregate throughput via single stream. > >> > >> Sadly, LAG/LACP as a whole like this sucks terribly for > >> wireless/microwave. > >> > >> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > Looking at the 2200FX it has regular SFP ports, so at 2Gbps (500 MHz > >> > channel > >> > 32QAM?) FDD, you can only achieve 2Gbps by doing an 802.3ad between > two > >> > routers. In which case no single customer data stream will exeed > 1Gbps. > >> > Not > >> > quite the same thing as having a radio with a SFP+ 10GbE interface. > >> > > >> > That said it will probably be less costly than the equivalent options > >> > from > >> > Bridgewave, E-Band or perhaps SIAE. > >> > > >> > On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Peter Kranz <[email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Siklu has both a high power and low power 2Gbps radio now. The high > >> >> power > >> >> unit is not on their website but due next month and its really much > >> >> more > >> >> than the cheap one honestly. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Peter Kranz > >> >> www.UnwiredLtd.com > >> >> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 > >> >> Mobile: 510-207-0000 > >> >> [email protected] > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 1:55 PM > >> >> To: [email protected] > >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Without violating any manufacturer's NDA, this is the tip of an > >> >> iceberg, > >> >> the Russians just happen to be publishing info a tiny bit earlier > than > >> >> the > >> >> other 80 GHz radio manufacturers. There are 10GbE 256QAM FDD radios > in > >> >> development and field testing from all of the significant players in > >> >> the > >> >> industry. > >> >> > >> >> I would expect the 'new' 5Gbps to 10Gbps radios to ship in the US at > a > >> >> price point under $20k per link including antennas, which will occupy > >> >> the > >> >> price tier previously occupied by the 1Gbps high-powered 80 GHz stuff > >> >> that > >> >> began shipping 3.5 to 4 years ago. Then you have the lower powered > less > >> >> expensive 80 GHz stuff like Siklu which has a max Tx power of +8 or > +10 > >> >> and > >> >> will come down further from its already-low price under $10k/link. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Putting 2 and 2 together, from a FB post, it looks like they're 20k > GBP > >> >> per link. That sounds simply awesome if they are. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ----- > >> >> Mike Hammett > >> >> Intelligent Computing Solutions > >> >> > >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange > >> >> > >> >> The Brothers WISP > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ________________________________ > >> >> > >> >> From: "Eric Kuhnke" <[email protected]> > >> >> To: [email protected] > >> >> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 5:42:25 PM > >> >> Subject: [AFMUG] Russians made a 10 Gbps radio? > >> >> > >> >> http://www.elva-1.com/news_events/a40107 > >> >> > >> >> http://www.elva-1.com/products/a40106 > >> >> > >> >> http://www.elva-1.com/data/files/Datasheets/2016_02_24_PPC-10G.pdf > >> >> > >> >> 2000 MHz wide channel and 256QAM for 10 Gbps in the FDD 71-86 GHz > >> >> bands. > >> >> Question is... What's the Rx level needed for that, and how quickly > >> >> does it > >> >> drop off with rain? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > > > > >
