I never understood opponents of drug testing. Its a good thing, best with companies who have a mitigation plan with a rehabilitation option, whether company paid or employee paid. Give them a chance to make amends, once.
I wish there were better timeframe testing, A guy shouldnt get canned for smoking a joint on a Saturday night 3 weeks ago, but if hes operating a company truck and smoking a joint, thats a whole different ballgame, even worse if hes 140 foot up a tower dropping shit on my head. but drug tests dont differentiate. On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > I used to work as a hiring manager in big corporate America, and one of > the problems I had with both background checks and drug testing was too > much information, and the inability to un-know things after the fact. You > need to narrowly specify to these outside testers what you want to be told > about employees and prospective employees, and have them leave everything > else out of their report. > > The background check companies would tell you about their finances, > marital problems, etc., and I didn’t want to know that. I wanted to know > if they had robbed a bank or killed someone. Similarly, I don’t really > want to know if an employee drank or smoked weed last Saturday, I want to > know if he is impaired on the job. That is definitely an issue, especially > if driving a company vehicle, operating power tools, climbing towers, or > interfacing with customers. > > I would also worry that once you have the information, the insurance > company or the government could get you to reveal it, and things spin out > of control. Better not to know what you don’t need to know. > > On the other hand, when working for corporate America, I learned that > employees with a drug problem will end up costing you - it’s not if, it’s > when. I saw employees arrested in the parking lot. I saw a huge employee > theft problem traced to a receiving dock employee with a drug habit. I > remember we interviewed a candidate for a technician position that everyone > really liked and we extended an offer contingent on passing a drug test, > which she failed. She was a single mother, said she really needed the job > and was not taking drugs so there must have been an error. So we let her > take the test again, and she failed again. Knowing you will be tested and > not being able to stay clean for a few days definitely says you have a drug > problem. > > There’s a quote: An alcoholic will steal your wallet and lie to you. A > drug addict will steal your wallet and help you look for it. > > > *From:* Doug Hass <hassd...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2016 10:09 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Drug Testing > > > Yikes! There are some legal issues with forcing employees to get drug > tested in this situation. You might consider pushing back against the > insurer a bit here and getting a little legal advice before deciding what > to do. > > El mar., 5 de abr. de 2016 10:06, That One Guy /sarcasm < > thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> escribió: > >> are you saying you have some drugs that need to be tested? >> >> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:12 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I randomly test everyone. We Use Anylabtestnow or something like that. >>> Drugs are cheap, alcohol costs about $50 by itself. >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016, 9:07 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>> >>>> Um we operate in Colorado *cough cough* I don't think anyone in the >>>> state would pass that kind of test lol >>>> >>>> -Sean >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, April 4, 2016, Keefe John <keefe...@ethoplex.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Just curious who here drugs tests employees. >>>>> >>>>> Our insurance company is making us do a sweep on drivers. >>>>> >>>>> Keefe >>>>> >>>> >> >> >> -- >> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
