Sounds like movie theaters might need better Internet connections. :-) 



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From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 8:14:34 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in Kansas 
City| Ars Technica 


They get their movies through the Internet actually... 
Josh Luthman 
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On Apr 11, 2016 9:12 AM, "Ken Hohhof" < [email protected] > wrote: 






Strange no one wants landline phone, but they want a giant TV that you can only 
watch at home, using Internet that only works at home. Seems like a dead end 
technology to me. Only good for seniors and kids. 

Some movie theaters by me have servers that bring actual food and drinks, the 
screen is humongous, and I’m told it doesn’t use the Internet at all. Maybe 
that is the next big thing. What will we do with all those gigabit fiber links 
to our houses when no one wants them anymore, like landlines and pay phones. 
Oh, right, the Internet of things. Our things will watch TV while we’re at 
work. 





From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 1:33 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in Kansas 
City| Ars Technica 

Me thinks he is one of them millennials. 

bp
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On 4/10/2016 4:13 PM, Josh Baird wrote: 

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So you are doing 3-4TB/month to your house? 



That's a *bit* on the high side, I would think. 
On Apr 10, 2016, at 6:57 PM, Josh Reynolds < [email protected] > wrote: 


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My house runs between 10-15 Mbps sustained. When we do our 4K upgrade next 
year, that will be between 50-75Mbps sustained depending on HDR/non-hdr content 
and codec type. 
On Apr 10, 2016 5:34 PM, "Bill Prince" < [email protected] > wrote: 

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Me too. Just checked our traffic, and we've actually got a 95th percentile of 
less than 500 Kbps (although in November/December we were running closer to 1.5 
Mbps). We can go way higher than that due mostly to where we are on the 
network, but we can't (or don't choose to) saturate our online-ness like a 
millennial. 

bp
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On 4/10/2016 3:24 PM, George Skorup wrote: 

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I can get 30Mbps at home on my 450. I might hit 25-30 to download windows 
updates or a game patch or something, but my average is less than a meg. Would 
I notice if I had only 10Mbps, probably not. And yeah, mine is free. :) 

I guess I'm just not an average millennial. Meh. 


On 4/10/2016 5:06 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: 

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I’m talking about Comcast’s $10 Internet Essentials. 
https://internetessentials.com/ 

Available if child qualifies for school lunch program. Not a contract or promo 
price. And you don’t have to live in public housing. 

I do realize typical residential pricing is around $50/mo. What I’m saying is 
the “free” price was ridiculous, especially since Google Fiber is so 
holier-than-thou showing the other ISPs how it’s done. It was either a stunt to 
get municipal approval, or they honestly believed 10 Mbps was so lame that most 
people would rather pay for gigabit. 

No matter what their logic, increasing your minimum tier from $0 to $50 is a 
helluva price increase. It would certainly seem to offer the local cable and 
telephone companies an opportunity to offer 10 Mbps at something less than $50, 
maybe around $30. And maybe get some cable TV revenue. Because lots of people 
will still be happy with a meager 10 Mbps if it’s affordable, no matter what 
the elites think. Just like some people are fine with French’s mustard instead 
of Grey Poupon, and beer instead of wine. 





From: Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 4:45 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in Kansas 
City| Ars Technica 


I am under the impression you are not familiar with common metro broadband 
pricing. 
Honestly. 
I have a rather large spreadsheet of major North American fiber / cable / DSL 
providers, contracts, misc fees, etc. 
Once you get past the "contract promo" pricing, seeing 10Mbps for $45-55+ a 
month is far from uncommon - especially for the cable cos, which sucks when you 
see that 10Mbps stay at 2-4Mbps during peak because of how vastly over 
provisioned much of those networks are. 
That said, their 1Gbps pricing (which they want customers on, as gpon ports 
aren't free in the strategic sense) really stoked a fire under most of the 
providers asses. 
On Apr 10, 2016 4:38 PM, "Ken Hohhof" < [email protected] > wrote: 

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Free was silly. But hiking the minimum tier from $0 to $50 is kind of extreme. 
They must have been surprised how many people were OK with a mere 10 Mbps at 
America’s favorite price. 

Comcast’s $10 price is more reasonable than either $0 or $50. 





From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 2:31 PM 
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Google Fiber ends free 5Mbps Internet offer in Kansas City| 
Ars Technica 


http://arstechnica.com/business/2016/04/google-fiber-ends-free-5mbps-internet-offer-in-kansas-city/
 


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