Do you mind if I ask how you're managing v6? How are you allotting customer blocks/IPs?
How do you hand off the v6? DHCPv6? SLAAC? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Jesse DuPont <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net > wrote: > We're 100% dual-stacked, v4/v6. If a customer's router supports v6, > they'll get a prefix from us. Here are the interesting points: > > 1. About 40% of all our customer have a v6 prefix (i.e. at a minimum > their routers support v6). > 2. Any router we sell is configured by the installer for v6 (forcing > the adoption :) ) > 3. We do graph v4 and v6 separately (at the edge) and about 10-12% of > all our traffic is consistently v6. Sometimes it jumps up to 20% for a > while. This holds true for both directions. > > To expand on what Dennis said, just because someone gets a v6 prefix, > doesn't mean they'll have a lot of v6 traffic. It seems while most modern > mobile phones, tablets and Win 8/10 and Mac OS X (combined with modern > browsers and apps) readily use v6, most smart TVs/streaming boxes AREN'T > using v6 yet (I think the new Apple TV might be). So even though Netflix is > v6 capable, the majority of playing devices aren't so therefore it happens > over v4. > > *Other somewhat interesting, slightly OT v6 stuff:* > As an experiment, I watched Torch of an iPad streaming a Netflix movie. > The iPad had both v4 and v6 global. Of course, with any HLS, the player is > downloading 10s or 20s segments at a time. When it would download the next > segment it did it with 4 separate TCP substreams (not abnormal), but it > would switch between v6 and v4, often times using both at the same time. > One segment would be three v6 substreams and one v4 substream, next time it > would be 2/2, and so on. Contrast that with Youtube, which on a v6 device, > will be 100% over v6; same with Facebook. > > Separately: I had a customer call in last week; his DirecTV DVR quit > working consistently (no guide data, couldn't connect) and when it did, it > would only work for a while, then quit again. Two things were happening: I > had one v6 DNS server down for a few days. Most everything used the > secondary DNS server, but not his network. 2nd thing: At that site, I was > only doing prefix delegation (PD). This meant his router was receiving a > global v6 prefix and advertising it on his LAN, but wasn't getting a global > V6 address on it's WAN port (which isn't needed for v6 routing, but could > be needed if the router is doing DNS proxy using v6 DNS servers, for > example). Once I let his router's WAN port have a global v6 address along > with his delegated prefix for the LAN, all was golden again. > > *Jesse DuPont* > > Network Architect > email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net > Celerity Networks LLC > > Celerity Broadband LLC > Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc > > Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband > On 5/3/16 8:23 AM, Ty Featherling wrote: > > I'm curious why my traffic isn't' reflecting this. I'll look into routes > and make sure it all looks right. On another note; has anyone been > following this whole Google - Comcast IPv6 kerfluffle? > > -Ty > > > > -Ty > > On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > >> Yeah, I think AWS is the last thing that people really care about *not* >> on IPv6. >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" < <j...@kyneticwifi.com>j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Tuesday, May 3, 2016 9:11:38 AM >> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations >> >> OH REALLY?!? >> >> WOW! *whistles" >> >> SO NOW I KNOW!!! :O >> >> .... *grin* >> >> I think one of the last remaining large holdouts is AWS as a whole. >> (There are parts ipv6 enabled, but it's still a mess.) >> >> Other than that, as Service Providers we're probably going to end up >> having at least a rudimentary CGNAT deployment for a decade if not more, >> especially for those of us with large/old industrial/banking/healthcare >> customers... >> >> ... For stuff that should have been retired 20 years ago but is CRITICAL >> to their business, and won't run ipv6. >> >> (For a perfect example of old tech still in use, Google "Compaq laptop >> McLaren" :P ) >> On May 3, 2016 8:45 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> >> Traffic going IPv6 will bypass NAT end-to-end. >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" < <j...@kyneticwifi.com>j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Tuesday, May 3, 2016 8:41:28 AM >> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations >> >> To be technical, it's not going to remove NAT on your network for the >> foreseeable future unless when you add IPV6 that you also give everybody a >> public IPV4 as well :P >> >> Maybe a decade from now we'll be able to ditch NAT :( >> >> Yes, there are several v6/v4 and v4/v6 translation mechanisms, but those >> are really just different types of Network Address Translation, regardless >> of if they are officially called that or not. >> >> (Not that you don't know this Mike, I just don't want the nice people >> following along with the list to get the wrong information about the ipv6 >> transition.) >> On May 3, 2016 8:35 AM, "Mike Hammett" < <af...@ics-il.net> >> af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> >>> Having NAT problems? Having problems tracking down DMCA or subpoena >>> targets? It's impacting your functionality. >>> >>> Moving to IPv6 will also increase performance due to the removal of NAT. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Paul McCall" < <pa...@pdmnet.net>pa...@pdmnet.net> >>> *To: * <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com >>> *Sent: *Tuesday, May 3, 2016 8:18:33 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations >>> >>> Seth, >>> >>> I think it is pick your battles when you can. Some of use run at 100% >>> capacity in execution, and we have to carve out additional time to do >>> whatever the "other" things are. And there are a LOT of those "other" >>> things for growing companies. >>> >>> We all know it's important. But, if it is so easy, then when it's time >>> to hit it head on as it will being impacting our functionality, we can >>> "easily" take that time, at that time :) >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Af [mailto: <af-boun...@afmug.com>af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf >>> Of Seth Mattinen >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 12:55 AM >>> To: <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations >>> >>> On 5/2/16 11:18 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >>> > Everyone *SHOULD* be caring about IPv6. >>> > >>> >>> Why people running ISPs refuse to or are resistant to learn about things >>> directly related to the business they claim to be in baffles me. >>> >>> ~Seth >>> >>> >> >> > >
