I almost feel like there should be some sort of route filter auditing
going on by every company allowed to have an ASN.

... almost

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> wrote:
> Like, if I'm dumb enough to announce 8.0.0.0/8 and I'm singlehomed to an
> upstream provider that is also dumb enough to accept it, suddenly a lot of
> other BGP-speaking things that are nearby will see that the shortest route
> to 8/8 as being via my pipe. Cue the self inflicted DDoS.
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Like they are the default route for ALL OF THE THINGS? :)
>>
>> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Remember back in the early days of the net when mis-configured routers
>> > would
>> > sometimes announce themselves to the world, for everything?
>> >
>> > From: Eric Kuhnke
>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 3:44 PM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino, can you get this? :)
>> >
>> > My favorite of all time is when Pakistan's PTCL (an entity functionally
>> > equivalent to Centurylink or Verizon, they're the LEC) decided to
>> > announce
>> > Youtube's ipv4 prefixes... Not only did they mess things up for everyone
>> > but
>> > they also DDoSed themselves at their international transport capacity in
>> > and
>> > out of Karachi via submarine routes.
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.cnet.com/news/youtube-blames-pakistan-network-for-2-hour-outage/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well, there is a lot of single homed stuff out there for sure.
>> >>
>> >> It doesn't get much better the higher up you go in the OSI model
>> >> though. There's also a lot of incompetent operators out there as well.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> http://www.bgpmon.net/large-hijack-affects-reachability-of-high-traffic-destinations/
>> >> https://twitter.com/bgpstream?lang=en
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > It's not, really, it's the fragility of layers 1 and 2...  all the
>> >> > BGP
>> >> > sessions in the world and diverse upstreams won't help you if you're
>> >> > not
>> >> > diverse and suffer backhoe fade, tornado, raccoon chew, drunk guy in
>> >> > a
>> >> > semi
>> >> > truck taking out an entire utility pole, 40 pound chunk of ice
>> >> > falling
>> >> > on a
>> >> > dish+radio, etc etc
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ... or how fragile BGP is :)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > If the average person knew to what extent the internet is held
>> >> >> > together
>> >> >> > with
>> >> >> > duct tape and twine, they'd be scared. Splice canisters for
>> >> >> > backbone
>> >> >> > lines
>> >> >> > carrying  40-channel WDM systems going through handholes that are
>> >> >> > also a
>> >> >> > residence of a family of angry raccoons.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Josh Reynolds
>> >> >> > <[email protected]>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Some may laugh, but that's, sadly, quite plausible.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> That said, at least a few years ago one could making a killing
>> >> >> >> replacing light bulbs at AT&T shelters. $800/bulb.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke
>> >> >> >> <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > somebody in a cell site shelter tripped over an orange
>> >> >> >> > extension
>> >> >> >> > cord
>> >> >> >> > and $5
>> >> >> >> > power strip probably...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Gino Villarini
>> >> >> >> > <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> yeap, we are being affected, outage is related to Mobile
>> >> >> >> >> Network.
>> >> >> >> >> No
>> >> >> >> >> official word yet, there was a earlier rumor about a circuit
>> >> >> >> >> breaker
>> >> >> >> >> being
>> >> >> >> >> accidentally turned off.  But my inside sources debunked it.
>> >> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> >> believe
>> >> >> >> >> its
>> >> >> >> >> a Issue with EPC
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Josh Reynolds
>> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Bit AT&T PR outage. Over 1 million cusomers down for 8+ hours
>> >> >> >> >>> now.
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Were you effected? Any idea what caused it?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
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