We have 22 towers that have the battery plant indoors.  4 batteries at $ 100 
each vs $ 200 each (Optima D31M) saves $ 400 per tower  ($ 8800 total)

We need to be doing routine maintenance and inspection on each tower anyways 
every 6 months or so.

The cost savings is something to consider.

For outdoor, we can stick with AGM.

Paul



From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jesse DuPont
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 11:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Deka 7T31 non-AGM batteries


Adding to what Chuck said, you'd also only want to use flooded batts in a 
vented space. AGM are safer in sealed enclosure.
Jesse DuPont
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On 5/31/16 8:27 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Flooded cells will have the lowest price per watt hour and the longest life if 
in a temp controlled environment.
However, they are classified as hazardous materials due to the amount of liquid 
electrolyte and that may affect zoning and insurance (if any one asks).
I would not use a lead acid flooded cell unless it was in a temp controlled 
environment.

If  you have 120 batts to replace, sounds like they might be outdoors.  I would 
use AGM.

From: Paul McCall<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 7:38 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [AFMUG] Deka 7T31 non-AGM batteries

Guys,

We have always used the Optima D31M AGM batteries (just because).  Well…. It’s 
that time… time to replace 90% of them, and looking for alternatives.  Having 
to buy 120+ batteries… cost becomes something to at least look at.

My local supplier says that FPL (Florida Power & Light – aka Florida Flicker 
and Flash)  uses the Deka 7T31  non-AGM batteries (Lead Acid) and they are a 
lot cheaper (waiting on price – I found them quickly for $ 100 each).  They are 
a 100ah batteries.  Here is the spec otherwise 
http://www.eastpennmanufacturing.com/wp-content/uploads/Deka-Commercial-Batteries-Flyer-0010.pdf
 (minus the ah rating which I got from Deka over the phone).

Does lead acid have distinct disadvantages from AGM?  Also, anybody using 
Li-Ion yet for a tower battery bank?  Probably not cost-effective ?

Paul

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