Oh we definitely have a *budget *for my "free" postfix + dovecot + totally GPL and BSD licensed software email system... It just gets spent 100% on things like server hardware with redundant hotswap power supplies, hotswap fans, RAID-10 SSD arrays, the identical twin server that is the other half of the pair, the backup server that all of it gets backed up to, monthly colocation, etc.
If that all sounds really expensive, the email server lives on a xen guest VM on a a Dell PowerEdge R900 quad xeon with 128GB of RAM that cost less than $700 to buy. Not software licenses or "pay $$ per mailbox per month" solutions. On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Josh Baird <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm not touching Zimbra if it requires me (which it probably doesn't) to > spin up 8 hosts like you do. :) > > I can happily run 10k+ Exchange 2010 mailboxes on two servers. If I was > spinning up something that had to actually host mailboxes on a small-ish > scale (and I didn't have a budget), I would do what Eric does and use > Postfix/Dovecot/$the_newest_elite_webmail_solution. If I had a small budget > and didn't already have an existing mailbox infrastructure, I'm more than > likely going to outsource it (O365, Google or whatever). > > Josh > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Zimbra is great. I don't know why everyone doesn't use it. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Tyler Treat" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Wednesday, June 1, 2016 1:37:48 PM >> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Urgently need Exchange DB Guru >> >> I can't fully disagree with the your email Josh - for customers. >> That said, in a large, and growing office environment, it's hard to match >> the featureset of exchange if you're willing to pay for it every couple >> revisions... >> Then if you dump office365 into the mix for ultra small headcount orgs >> who don't want/cant justify servers and maintenance, it's pretty slick. >> >> Disclaimer: I've never knowingly used zimbra, so it may be just as good >> if you've got someone who can make it dance. >> >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: Af <[email protected]> on behalf of Josh Reynolds < >> [email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 1:31 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Urgently need Exchange DB Guru >> >> [1] As a small to medium ISP, you lack the experience of a large email >> provider >> [2] As a small to medium ISP, you lack the hardware redundancy of a >> large email provider >> [3] As a small to medium ISP, you lack the software redundancy of a >> large email provider >> [4] As a small to medium ISP, you likely have other, more important >> duties besides worrying about managing your own email server >> [5] As a small to medium ISP, you lack the dedicated team a large >> email provider has to help get off / stay off blacklists >> [6] As a small to medium ISP, internal per user mail cost via cloud >> provider is a very efficient use of opex given the above >> [7] As a small to medium ISP, you can only "do better" than the above >> in cost alone. >> [8] As a small to medium ISP, If cost is the only importance when it >> comes to mail, use Zimbra, Sendmail, etc. >> [9] As a small to medium ISP, if you INSIST on offering hosted mail to >> customers, consider Sendmail. Sendmail has been used by a metric >> asston of ISPs - potentially serving several billion customers over >> the years. It is very well tested and supported. >> [10] As a small to medium ISP, if you INSIST on offering hosted mail >> to customers and don't like Sendmail, consider Zimbra. Zimbra will >> offer you support and features very similar to Exchange with a much >> lower cost. Your end user devices won't know there is a difference. >> >> Somebody is going to come up with certain experiences they've had >> running Exchange, or Qmail, or $whatever. That's fine, you experience >> and opinions are no less relevant. >> >> Now I'm going to bow out, and maybe watch the carnage unfold after I >> finish making this new ansible/Juniper playbook :) >> >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Dennis Burgess <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > 1.. exchange is easy. >> > 2. why works great! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – [email protected] >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds >> > Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 12:52 PM >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Urgently need Exchange DB Guru >> > >> > [1] Good luck with getting it fixed >> > >> > [2] Get the fuck off exchange >> > >> > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> thanks! >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 1:35 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Keith Willis with Progent >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> We have a issue with our Exchange server. The database does not >> mount. >> >>>> Any recommendations for a Exchange Professional? >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your >> >>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> >> >> >> >> >> >
