Which is why Ku band satellite stuff for two way VSAT terminals/earth
stations has been direct from feed to waveguide for a while now... You need
high quality low loss cable and special N connectors for 11 GHz.


On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 9:28 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

> Interesting that if I try to use the Times Microwave calculator for LMR
> cables at 11 GHz, it gives an error that the cable is not suitable for that
> frequency.  Apparently they consider the max to be 6 GHz.
>
>
> *From:* George Skorup <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 07, 2016 10:07 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N
>
> The coaxial on an 11GHz radio makes no sense to me. Everybody else
> (mostly?) is waveguide. Different is not always good, even if it's cheaper.
> "Because what f'n antenna am I supposed to use!?" says the entire list.
>
> They might have been better off with a proprietary slip-fit antenna and/or
> interface. Or perhaps two models like the Integra & Integra-S.
>
> On 6/7/2016 8:57 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> Several radio manufacturers used to OEM the Remec ODUs, and there are
> Remec circular and rectangular slip fit interfaces.  Dragonwave, Ceragon,
> SAF and Exalt have their own, as I assume do several others I have no
> experience with.  Then there’s Jirous, which Mimosa has teamed up with.
>
> Antenna vendors like Commscope and Radiowaves have models with feedtubes
> for several of the common radio manufacturers.  The (now defunct?)
> McCownTech Optics dishes had interchangeable feedtubes, including one for 5
> GHz so you could upgrade from unlicensed to licensed.
>
>
> *From:* Brian Sullivan <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 07, 2016 8:41 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N
>
> What are the other attachment setups for licensed radios?  I only have
> experience with the Dragonwave flavor.
> I have heard mention of an adapter to convert DWave to Cambium 820.
>
> On 6/7/2016 8:18 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>
> It would be nice to have one that fit Andrew / Commscope more directly
> though, as opposed to the dragonwave adapter.
>
> On Tuesday, June 7, 2016, Chuck McCown < <[email protected]>[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Sure can.  I would recommend SMA connectors though I think.
>> What does the radio have on it?
>>
>> *From:* Brian Sullivan
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 07, 2016 2:14 PM
>> *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Convert Andrew Dragonwave dishes to N
>>
>> So I assume there is no adapter available based on the crickets i've
>> heard from a few places.
>>
>> Paging Chuck McCown-  If we wanted 20 or 30 of these could you make up a
>> batch?  I assume there would be others who would end up wanting them too.
>>
>> On 6/7/2016 11:47 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>>
>> If the dish's feed waveguide is cylindrical, yes you can use dual
>> polarity with it. The question is having the right adapter, which it sounds
>> like Chuck will build.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 8:07 AM, Brian Sullivan <[email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> UBNT is about to release their 11 Ghz radios to the market.  I imagine
>>> some operators like us may want to upgrade existing 11 GHz links to the
>>> UBNT radio to gain more capacity.
>>> Our licensed links are Dragonwave Horizon Compact and we use the Andrew
>>> VHLP2-11-DW1 in the majority of links.  Is there an adapter that will
>>> convert these dishes to N connections?  These dishes also allow us to
>>> rotate the radio to take advantage of Horizontal or Vertical polarities as
>>> our license dictates.  Can they be run in dual polarity?  Ideally, the
>>> adapter would have 2 N connections, one for H + V.  Here is a photo of the
>>> Dragonwave interface.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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