I'm really not sure what you would be doing with an installer/technician
laptop that wouldn't work just fine on a Core 2, but all we really do with
them is program radios and align antennas... and the ePMP interface is
slow, but not *that* slow.

However, on the subject of Toughbooks, it is well worth getting a newer one
with an i5 if you're going to be using it outside, because they have much,
much better screens than the older ones - it's by far the best laptop for
using outdoors that I've ever seen, and the only one I've used with a
screen that I can actually see (and see well) in direct sunlight.

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ummm, a core i3 is a dual core CPU, it's the *type *of cores and
> architecture that's newer...  Yes a 3rd/4th generation core i3 will be a
> lot faster than a core 2 duo based laptop.
>
> In my experience a fast SSD and 8GB of RAM will run an xubuntu/XFCE4 based
> desktop environment on a technician/installer laptop just fine.
>
> One of my field laptops is still an x41 tablet with a 'dothan' core CPU
> and 1.5GB of RAM. It does everything I need it to do and has a great
> keyboard. I don't even need a core 2 duo for network operations which exist
> entirely within a Firefox/https TLS 1.2 browser session to some back end
> operational software (example: OpenVPN tunnel into the company net and
> access to our OpenNMS or RT web interfaces), and everything else is by
> command line and SSH.
>
> People need a core i3 for the web browser/http aiming interface of a
> radio?!?!  Is the ePMP software *that* bad?
>
> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X41_Tablet
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Based on our experience, dual-core doesn’t cut it any longer, you need an
>> I3 at minimum.  To that end, we still like the Lenovo T420 units for
>> battery life and toughness.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 6, 2016 5:14 PM
>> *To:* af
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Toughbooks
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree, a Core i5 is overkill... which is why the ones we have are older
>> core 2 versions, but it isn't huge and heavy, it's less than a pound more
>> than that thinkpad, and it'll take far more abuse.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> For what an installer needs to do with a laptop, a core i5 something is
>> way overkill. That toughbook is nice, but huge and heavy.
>>
>> Here's an example of what a good condition Thinkpad X60 goes for:
>>
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-1-Lenovo-X60S-1-66GHz-2-0GB-100GB-WiFi-Laptop-/191834742697?hash=item2caa3ddfa9:g:S14AAOSw9uFW9Hgj
>>
>> 60 bucks. Then add $35 for a new third party battery for it.
>>
>> Put xubuntu on it. I mean, what do they need to do with it?  Everything
>> is inside a web browser. It needs a 1000BaseT port on it, needs to be
>> reasonably small and rugged.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> In my opinion, if you're giving them to installers, yes it's better than
>> three of those. It all depends what you're doing with it though...
>>
>> I'd rather buy one and have it last a few years than buy three per year.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Joshaven Mailing Lists <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Is that really better then three of these:
>> http://www.amazon.com/Latitude-E6420-Notebook-DVD-Writer-Bluetooth/dp/B007PN2L3Y/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1459975789&sr=8-3&keywords=dell+e6420
>>
>>
>>
>> Personally I like the Dell Latitude E6420 at $100 - $150 because you can
>> break a few a year and still be ahead of the game financially.  Also if you
>> buy all the same model then you can swap parts some time like a broken
>> screen for a good one.  The Latitudes are pretty easy to work on.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Joshaven Potter
>> Google Hangouts: [email protected]
>> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
>>
>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Travis Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey... Not sure if this is a good deal or not, but Woot has Toughbooks
>> for sale right now:
>>
>>
>> http://computers.woot.com/plus/panasonic-toughbook-laptops-1?ref=cp_cnt_odet_cp_crum_2_wp
>>
>> Travis
>>
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