I'm still trying to figure this out, since any Hawaii-to-Hawaii flight going between any two islands could be beyond 12 nautical miles, but still be within the exclusive economic zone, no?
This is the sort of question that probably ends up in an Admiralty Law course. On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Jason McKemie < [email protected]> wrote: > Meaning they don't want it going through international territory. > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Jason McKemie < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> They don't want people flying stuff into / out of Hawaii via drone? i.e. >> internationally >> >> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Eric Kuhnke <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I wonder what is the deal with the part about Hawaii. I understand about >>> DC since there's a huge drone no-fly-zone for security reasons there, but >>> this? >>> >>> * The flight occurs wholly within the bounds of a State and * >>> *does not involve transport between (1) Hawaii and * >>> *another place in Hawaii through airspace outside * >>> *Hawaii; * >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 7:55 AM, Matt Kahle <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> It looks like laws changed as of today. >>>> http://www.faa.gov/uas/media/Part_107_Summary.pdf and it appears most >>>> of the pages including the application for the section 333 exemption are no >>>> longer live. You will now have to pass an in person test administered at a >>>> FAA testing facility or in my case as a Part 61 pilot take an online >>>> training course. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Kurt Fankhauser < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> What about the farmers using drones to check their crops? Is that >>>>> commercial? >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 10:58 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> He's not quite dead yet, it's just a flesh wound. >>>>>> On Jun 20, 2016 9:42 PM, "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> $53 and the dead woodchuck my dog dragged in last week. >>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2016 5:29 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> $52 and a pack of dogs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>> On Jun 20, 2016 6:05 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> $51 and part of a hot dog >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> $50 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Sam Lambie <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Anyone want to buy Phantom 2 and lots of batteries? Actually I >>>>>>>>>>> have 2 Phantom's 1 as a spare and never flown, a Taranis FRSky >>>>>>>>>>> Transmitter >>>>>>>>>>> and 7 batteries. FPV setup as well for a Go Pro with monitor. Works >>>>>>>>>>> great. >>>>>>>>>>> I am just tired of all the bullshit that goes with flying and >>>>>>>>>>> people lame >>>>>>>>>>> ass reactions. Plus, editing video sucks. >>>>>>>>>>> Make me an offer. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Jon Paul Kelley < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I was at a Drone informational session earlier this year at the >>>>>>>>>>>> NATE convention in New Orleans and the information that was given >>>>>>>>>>>> there was >>>>>>>>>>>> that any commercial operation of a drone required the operator to >>>>>>>>>>>> be, at >>>>>>>>>>>> least, a sport pilot. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jon Paul Kelley >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> CKS Wireless >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *That >>>>>>>>>>>> One Guy /sarcasm >>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2016 4:14 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Drones and laws >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> never mind, i guess this answers the question >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Q: I have a drone and would like to use it to monitor my >>>>>>>>>>>> business, such as by checking my roof. I won’t sell any pictures. >>>>>>>>>>>> Is this >>>>>>>>>>>> commercial use?* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> A: Yes. The FAA views any UAS (drone) operation that supports >>>>>>>>>>>> the functions of your business as a non-recreational use. >>>>>>>>>>>> Curently, any >>>>>>>>>>>> non-recreational use of an unmanned aircraft requires a Section 333 >>>>>>>>>>>> exemption from the Federal Aviation Administration. Once the small >>>>>>>>>>>> UAS rule >>>>>>>>>>>> is in place, which should occur later this year, you will then be >>>>>>>>>>>> able to >>>>>>>>>>>> operate commercially under the new regulation. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 4:11 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> has anyone gotten direct clarification whenther what our >>>>>>>>>>>> industry would use it for is considered recreational or commercial >>>>>>>>>>>> (site >>>>>>>>>>>> survey, inspection, general shenanigans) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Ben Royer < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From my registration: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Remember these simple safety guidelines whenflying your >>>>>>>>>>>> unmanned aircraft:* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Don't be careless or reckless with your UAS >>>>>>>>>>>> - Fly below 400 feet and remain clear of obstacles >>>>>>>>>>>> - Stay away from other aircraft at all times >>>>>>>>>>>> - Keep your UAS within your sight >>>>>>>>>>>> - Don't fly near airports, stadiums, or other people >>>>>>>>>>>> - Don't fly under the influence of drugs or alcohol >>>>>>>>>>>> - Keep away from emergency responders >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> For more information, visit: www.faa.gov/uas/model_aircraft >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *B4UFLY** Smartphone App* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Clear status icon shows flight restrictions and >>>>>>>>>>>> requirements in your current or planned location >>>>>>>>>>>> - Interactive maps with filtering options >>>>>>>>>>>> - Available soon in the App Store and Google Play Store >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Additional Resources* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *General Information about UAS:* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - www.faa.gov/uas >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Information about how to fly safely and responsibly:* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - www.faa.gov/uas/model_aircraft >>>>>>>>>>>> - www.knowbeforeyoufly.org >>>>>>>>>>>> - www.modelaircraft.org >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Information about flight requirements and restrictions:* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - www.faa.gov/go/uastfr >>>>>>>>>>>> - faa.gov/tfr >>>>>>>>>>>> - www.faa.gov/no_drone_zone/dc >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>>>>>> Ben Royer, Operations Manager >>>>>>>>>>>> Royell Communications, Inc. >>>>>>>>>>>> 217-965-3699 www.royell.net >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, June 17, 2016 1:25 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Drones and laws >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What's the current typeset? 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