And then there is upper management over there that sucks as well at least
the sales person always tends to blame them for issues... LOL


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
[email protected]
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Justin Wilson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Cogent has really started sucking on things like this since it was all
> turned over to sales.  Now, anytime you want to peer with their blackhole
> server, bring up BGP, our modify your BGp session it’s a sales order.  It
> took me 4 weeks to get a BGP session turned up on an existing circuit a few
> months ago.  The weak link was the sales person not responding in a timely
> manner. I get, with the exhaustion of IPv4, they are monetizing the /30 or
> /29’s that used to be taken for granted.  I think, at least in our case,
> the sales person had bigger fish to chase and spending time on a BGP sales
> order which they charge $50 a month for was not worth his time.  I could be
> wrong, but thats what it seemed.
>
> Justin Wilson
> [email protected]
>
> ---
> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>
> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>
> On Jun 22, 2016, at 11:26 AM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> It takes FOR EV ER to get any change orders with them done.
>
> Also, eCogent is *the worst* web based system I have used in almost 20
> years now in this business.
>
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Dennis Burgess <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> You have to be peered with them and open a ticket and fill out their BGPQ
>> to get you added to their blackhole servers. J
>>
>>
>>
>> <image001.jpg>
>>
>> www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – [email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
>> /sarcasm
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:00 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik BGP Blackhole Community
>>
>>
>>
>> is this for a single ip?
>>
>>
>>
>> our upstream thats actually communicating said they dont support
>> blackhole community, the other i assume wont either
>>
>>
>>
>> is this stating you can trigger at cogent even though not peered with
>> them directly?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Justin Wilson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> BlackHole server
>>
>> The Blackhole server allows customers under a DDOS attack to send all
>> traffic to the IP address under attack to null route.
>>
>> To request configuration on the blackhole server: Log into eCogent and
>> click on BGP request. You will need the following information:
>>
>> 1. Order Number.
>>
>>  2. An IP address from your network with which we will peer.
>>
>> 3. A password (all blackhole server sessions are password protected).
>>
>>
>>
>>  All North American and Asia Pacific Customers will peer with:
>>
>>  IPv4: 66.28.8.2 and IPv6: 2001:550:0:1000::421c:802
>>
>>
>>
>> All European Customers will peer with: IPv4: 130.117.20.2 and IPv6:
>> 2001:550:0:1000::8275:1402
>>
>>
>>
>> Once your session to the blackhole server has been established, any
>> network you announce to it will be stopped at our borders. Please note that
>> Cogent does not warrant or guarantee that use of the blackhole server will
>> mitigate, or minimize any effects of a DDOS attack nor does Cogent
>> guarantee that a session to the blackhole server can be established on a
>> timely basis. You are limited to announcing 50 prefixes to our blackhole
>> server. If you anticipate needing to announce more, relay that request to
>> our Customer Support department along with the technical justification for
>> an increase in the number of prefixes to be announced.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Justin Wilson
>>
>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
>>
>> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>>
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
>>
>> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 22, 2016, at 10:37 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Really? Mikrotik can automatically trigger a blackhole IP with Cogent? I
>> have had to call Cogent to get IP's blacklisted previously.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Justin Wilson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> San example with Cogent:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> add in-filter=cogent-blackhole-in multihop=yes name=Cogent-BlackHole 
>> out-filter=cogent-blackhole-out remote-address=130.117.20.1 remote-as=174 
>> tcp-md5-key=<my-md5-key> ttl=default 
>> update-source=<interface-facing-cogent-or-ip-that-was-sent-to-Cogent>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Justin Wilson
>>
>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
>>
>> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>>
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
>>
>> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 20, 2016, at 7:35 PM, Matt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone used BGP and Remote-Triggered BlackHole with Mikrotik to
>> help deal with DOS attacks?  Any examples of getting it too work with
>> Mikrotik?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
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