thats what he said hes doing. what would you recommend doing in this case?
just replace all the feedhorns and re-align? We are paying the same rate
either way so its just time

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 9:24 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

> The only antenna test I can think of that should be quick and easy
> (assuming you have the right equipment) would be a return loss test/sweep.
> If they cannot do that, forget it.
>
> I probably would not even bother with the testing.
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 07, 2016 12:40 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] outside contractor expectations
>
> So, Im really a cheap bastard, Ive had like 10k in outside
> consultant/funtime contractor retard budget for a few months since our 12
> dollar guy left us, Ive spent 0 bucks and done everything myself but need
> to deplete the budget so I can renew it.
>
> We have three ptp links that arent at the path profile we need to get back
> into the party. Im bringing in a guy to test the antennas/ leads/ output.
> On the antenna tests, I have no clue what to realistically expect on a
> deployed unit, nor can I probably read the results.
>
> My expectations are that I provide them with the FCC ID of the antenna,
> they tell me if theyre still up to snuff (these are all radiowaves 2' high
> performance connected to antiquated PTP500 (some are software upgraded from
> 300). I dont know thats its worth testing the leads, all 12 are worth maybe
> 200 bucks and the contractor time is 65 bucks x 2 guys, probably best to
> just have them verify 12 leads in the shop and replace them all since
> theyre getting disconnected for testing anyway. assuming none of the
> parabolics were hit by meteorites or .22s the only thing that might have
> been degraded is the feedhorns. Ive been doing this nonsense for a decade
> and only seen one damaged feedhorn on one of these thing, and it was
> exploded from lighting, so I think for 6 units, 2 spares should be
> sufficient. Hes verifying he can test the RF output of the Radio itself, if
> not he says he can do a "spectrum" in front of the antenna after verifying
> the horn and lead loss. I expect FCC testbed results, can someone bring me
> closer to earth and tell me what my actual expectations should be for this?
>
> After the antenna/lead/output verification theyre going to update
> linkplanner with verified GPS and AGL and align. Ive never seen a valid
> input on linkplanner be outside the installation report on a single link I
> installed. so I think this is worth the budget, I have a 12 hour
> expectation so about 1500 before the incidentals like drive and a hotel
> which is maybe 300 bucks more for 1800 or so dollars.
>
> To you folks who have been doing this much longer than me, is what Im
> getting worth the dough given I dont have the personal ability to verify
> any hardware and dont have the staff to reliably be on the other end of the
> alignments? Im the guy a jew calls a cheap prick (no offense to jews) so
> anything over 8 dollars seems like alot to me and Ive been sitting on ten
> grand like its my last mortgage payment, so burning almost 20% of it hurts
> my chiseler heart, if I had a heart
>
> A note on previous expense, we have burned probably 30 or 40 staff man
> hours over the last year sending not me guys out looking at these links at
> various times already. Two are on towers, I quit climbing towers a few
> years ago and only climb in emergencies or days with Y now, but havent been
> personally involved in realignment, my fear of height on towers makes it
> hard for me to focus on alignment.
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>



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