Even as late as 1977 or 1978, Data General (remember them) sent out new
systems with purchased software delivered on paper tape. Boxes and boxes
of fan-folded paper tape. I remember having a new system where we had to
replace the primary hard drive. Since the new disc was "virgin" we had
to reload the OS, and all the compilers and libraries via the fan-folded
paper tape. Boxes and boxes of them.
Every now and then the paper tape would get a read error, and you would
have to "back up" the paper tape to the previous correctly loaded block
and start again. It required being able to recognize the hole pattern
for the block beginning. Wheee.
bp
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On 7/10/2016 8:45 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I remember Bill Gates writing a scolding letter to the computer
hobbyist world back in something like 76 about everyone passing
around his basic interpreter on copies of paper tape. I think it was
published in Popular Electronics (my fav magazine back then).
We had paper tape at the first phone company I worked for, that is how
the call records were stored.
And the first Ham RTTY rig I ever saw had paper tape capability.
*From:* Ken Hohhof <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Sunday, July 10, 2016 8:23 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise
Remember paper tape? I remember entering the boot code from toggle
switches to read the OS from paper tape. And I have a vague
recollection of a 2 step compiler or maybe assembler where not only
was the source code on paper tape, but the intermediate step was
punched onto paper tape and then read back in. Or maybe that’s a bad
dream I had.
*From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Sunday, July 10, 2016 2:59 AM
*To:* af <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise
Some of my really early work was helping to program a system which
used a z80 cp/m system for motion control.
The compile step was long enough for a coffee or soda break.
Assuming the compiler finished without errors, the link step was long
enough to walk to lunch, get lunch, and come back. And still not
finish.
At some point we figured out that the process was disk bound (floppies
are slow). So we built a ram disk card for the s100 system to speed
things up. I think the cp/m driver for that card may have been my
first z80 assembly code. Cut the time to almost nothing..
Sadly, that ended our forced lunch breaks.
On Jul 9, 2016 11:11 PM, "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
How about compiling a fortran program on an Apple IIe and going
for coffee, then a half hour later coming back to see your first
syntax error.
I had a TRS-80 too. And the Timex Sinclair Z80.
*From:* Ken Hohhof <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Saturday, July 09, 2016 7:28 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise
I remember submitting punchcard decks and waiting a couple hours
for the printout off the mainframe (CDC 6400).
*From:* David Milholen <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Saturday, July 09, 2016 7:15 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise
Got me by a few years in 1979 was my first :)
On 7/9/2016 12:13 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
But that is not very long...
I wrote my first program in something like 1968.
*From:* Mike Hammett <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Friday, July 08, 2016 7:20 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise
I've been running VMs for ten years. :-p
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*From: *"Chuck McCown" mailto:[email protected]
*To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent: *Friday, July 8, 2016 8:17:05 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise
It is astounding to be witness to such an acceleration of
technology. I remember when VMs were scary experimental. And it
was not all that long ago from my perspective.
*From:* Mike Hammett <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Friday, July 08, 2016 7:11 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise
You run it as a VM on your platform of choice, though mine is
VMWare. It auto sets up the whole environment, OS and all.
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*From: *"Chuck McCown" mailto:[email protected]
*To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent: *Friday, July 8, 2016 8:07:42 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise
I am not much of a VM or linux guy, so please forgive my
ignorance. But does this mean you have to run it on an Ubuntu
machine?
*From:* Mike Hammett <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Friday, July 08, 2016 7:04 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] cnMaestro On-Premise
It's very easy to install, comes as an OVA built on Ubuntu 14.04.
It has a nice TUI for the console to do things like changing IPs,
console password, etc.
The web UI has an 8 - 16 character password requirement.
#shittypasswords
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